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Welcome to the forum! We need more optimists here...I very well expect a loaded JT Rubi to retail for more than $65k.

All I can say is, enjoy your Taco...

Um...these are all 4 door Wrangler (JL) prices. Not really a leak.

I will not have you disparage the home of the World Champion Bahstan Red Sawks!:punch:

From Boston.com yesterday (admittedly, they are just guessing as well): "A well-equipped Toyota Tacoma with a V6 engine, quad cab, and four-wheel drive costs upwards of $40,000. Considering the standard four-wheel drive and V6, and then throw in the removable roof, removable doors, and lowerable...

A "fully loaded" Rubi JT will be over $60k. The JL is right near that already.

I want a $30k JT as much as the next guy. But it just doesn't make any sense to me to price it that low. I've been wrong before (prom date, 1986), so there's still hope.

I honestly, in my Jeep of hearts, believe that FCA doesn't give a rat's ass about Tacoma, Colorado, Ranger or any other "competitor". They plan to sell 100k of these at maximum profit. It's not meant to compete with the midsized p/u class, but rather to establish its own market. If you want an...

I forget, how do you get the top off the Raptor, again?

You have to understand, Jeep doesn't care about the cross-shopper, or the midsized truck market as a whole. If you're shopping for a pick-up truck, the Gladiator is simply not for you (and they'll make sure of it by pricing it out of the midsized market). If, however, you're shopping for a new...

I think that when FCA stated that "...the Gladiator will be expensive, intentionally so." they weren't trying to announce "bubble pricing" as you coined it, but rather that the tech and ruggedness of the vehicle, if done properly and without compromise, would require them to make a substantial...

6.25% without an Affiliate Reward like Tread Lightly, 7.25% with. Marco is good and responsive. He was at Criswell, now at Ourisman.

The couple of dealers in Idaho just are the best deals. Dunno how or why they can do 8% below invoice, but that's as low as we've seen. They do require dealer financing which is rather high, but most people just refi as quickly as they can. As far as requiring Tread Lighlty or another AR code...

S'O.K., I felt great about getting our Pilot at $500 over invoice last year, till I started surfing the Honda forums. Could have saved another $1500 easily. Live and learn. With Tread Lightly, you can't just mention it. You have to actually print out an AR certificate, of which you are entitled...

Invoice is around 4.5% under MSRP on the vehicle itself, and around 11% under MSRP on any optional equipment. It is also commonly known as FWP, or Factory Wholesale Price, and is generally (and incorrectly) accepted as the price the dealer pays for the unit, and 1% below this number is where any...

So, if you're paying in Aussie dollars, which are worth $.72 US, then at $69k AUD you are paying $49.5k US, to compare apples to apples. What I was trying ot say is that with the exchange rate, you're paying roughly the same price, give or take a couple thousand dollars, as we do here.

Sorry, I was assuming you were quoting Australian dollars (AUD=.72 USD). If those numbers you gave are in US dollars, then YIKES!

That max price on the 4-door Rubicon is still under $49,500 in USD, and with the turbo diesel, something that will be a $3-5000 add-on here. So, a base Rubi JL here is $43k, tack on $3-5k for the diesel and you're at $46-48k, right in your price neighborhood. Considering the JL is built in our...

The closest one listed on JLWranglerforum is Adams in Annapolis, MD, 5% under invoice with a dealer fee of $300 (I think it's actually $399). Contact is Rodney Mattison at [email protected]. None listed in Delaware.

This guy is full of the poo. These are manufacturer test mules. The reps often drive them around to dealerships to hype, but these are in no way for sale. Is the dealership in Michigan? Wrong wheels, no badging, manu plates: no dice.