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When these dealers say a percent off the jt, would that be any trim? Or just the rubicon?. Any idea how those dealers do the 5-8% off invoice currently work that with the jl trims?

Couldn't agree more. If not I'm keeping my tundra and buying a motorcycle. True open air freedom!

You are welcome. All the talk on what pricing is ; some guessing low and many jeep enthusiast guessing high. I wanted to see for myself , what the actual midsize market is. It made me feel a little better to see the actual numbers, though not quite exact comparables, I think it gives us a really...

I think they have known for a long time what pricing will be but hold it back to build anticipation. Would you get the jk over the jl if the JT is priced to high?

Prices came right off of fords website, and the fx4 would compare to rubi. If your looking for offroad package.

I went through the various truck build sites. Most other companies require automatic transmission To get a 4X4, and include power windows at the min.. Here is the pricing for these brands. Figure it may help put our Price guessing in perspective. After all, This is a Truck not "a wrangler with a...

I do think that us truck owners with families are given a chance to have a "fun" vehicle with the gladiator. Both fun and functional. I'm not building any barns, so the 5 foot bed is plenty big for me

I have never owned a wrangler and if I am honest have zero desire to ever purchase a wrangler. Many response on the thread I get the impression are from long time wrangler owners. I'd like to know if what the split is on here.

, I did see it in person and took a picture of my daughter sitting in it and to me and my wife it looks way lighter in the video. Perhaps it is the finish plus the video not projecting the exact color on my phone or tv the same.

Does the sting gray take on lighter color depending on lighting?

Watch some YouTube videos and I am stumped on this? Is it the sting ray or the bullet? It doesnt look like either? It looks like the toyota cement color to me?

I agree with you. They could have did that for the hard and soft tops.

If that is the case I am 100% out and will just keep my tundra, no way could ever justify 40k for a base pick up with roll up windows. No ac and manual transmission

If the jt is in fact a niche vehicle with target audience of current jeep wrangler owners only. The wrangler resale value is gonna plummet! Just think of all the extra wranglers for sale. I don't think this is their intention. From a business perspective it doesn't make any sense to aim to sell...

I have a 2016 tundra I will be trading. I want The gladiator sport s soft top with automatic and tow package for hopefully right around 36k.

A hard top that slides back over top the bed, converting to a bed cap, and then being able to hook up the soft top up front over the cab . I wish this was an added option , not an after market. My concept seems easy to pull off, especially If you purchase the dual tops. It would be perfect.

Thank you sir.

Does anyone know if the gladiator will have a real emergency brake or will it just be a "parking brake" button like what my pacifica has? Would getting a manual get me a real ebrake?