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My tow vehicle (non-gladiator) weighs in at 5700lbs (7,000 GVWR) and has a GCWR rating of 16,100lbs, so what you’re saying is not really true.

Is your JTR diesel order loaded up w/ options?

Yep. The GC w/ 3.6 absolutely sucks towing. Hence my comment above regarding towing a 3500lb trailer. I tow every other weekend here in CO and its miserable towing through the mountains (6k-12k feet). Like you said, it’ll drop down to 3rd and run 5k rpm and lose speed going up a pass and hover...

Like I said in my original post, i hope Im wrong and it was just a hunch thought I had. Seeing the guys here getting mixed info and answers about their diesel builds.

I'll have to dig up where I found the info on the JT diesel mopar lift being pushed to November availability.

I hope I'm wrong and it's purely speculation and not really related, but I see the mopar lift for the JT diesel has been delayed until November timeframe, which makes me wonder if the JT diesel production is being delayed for various reasons as well.

This^. Because towing w/ the 3.6 even with 4.88s through the Colorado rockies every other weekend during the summer would suck. Even a 3500lb camper would have the 3.6 struggling. My logic for the diesel was for the torque and not having to keep the rpms up high like you would on the 3.6...

except that diesel has been cheaper in my area of Denver for at least the last 5-6 months. Stays around 0.30/gal cheaper than regular 85 octane.

Even FCA cant figure out their part production but they may want to release their version before the aftermarket has a chance.

Correct, towing is 6k with max payload as little as 1,075 for the JTR diesel.

If Im not mistaken, that just means they add 4 gal of fuel for delivery.

According to the FCA spec release in their update last week, states that it has 18.3gal fuel tank & then add in the def tank capacity.

Diesel near me in denver metro is and has been $1.98, regular has been sitting 0.30 higher.

Do you know if its possible to order a paint matched hardtop after the fact?

Looking forward to having it in my wife’s Bronco she’ll be getting:)

I thought the exact same thing with their numbers and why I just gave up this morning. I found at least 6-7 errors in their spec sheet and option guide related to the diesel JTR. Just doesnt add up or make sense.

States the payload is 1075 on rubicon but their gCWR calculation and note below doesnt make sense to me. 1325 sport 1275 overland 1175 Mojave? 1075 rubicon

They also list diesel as an option for mojave when I thought that wasnt the case?

Yep Im going through it now and already finding issues not by choice. stating 4.10 standard in rubicon, 3.73 not an option or even a star saying diesel only. Doesnt state you cant have the full-time rock-trac with the diesel but based on info provided thus far, you can only get the part-time...

And yet Im finding they left out some important info in relation to rubicon diesels and make it even more confusing.