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From what I gathered in various readings on the JL forums and articles is that the diesel engine itself is 375lbs heavier then add in the DEF and other components which makes up another 50lbs roughly. Which is why I have a hard time thinking that if a JTR w/ 3.6 has 1150lb payload, with the...

If only I could get concrete answer as to what the max payload will be. So far no luck and 3 dealers haven't been able get the info from FCA either.

Did you catch the part though that I am a jeep owner? Have been since 2012, so Im fully aware of the jeep lifestyle which is why I would be parting ways with my jeep if going into a gladiator, as I dont need 2 money pits although the LJ is 99% complete as there is only 1 thing left to...

Never said I was comparing it to a super duty, just said if I didnt go with the gladiator, I would keep my LJ and trade the f150 in for a super duty.

Thanks for your feedback. Thats also a part Im struggling with. I have the dual panel sunroof on my truck and only find myself opening it when driving to work at 4am and my dang heavily modded wrangler sits in the garage feeling left out. My dog loves riding in my jeep but he also enjoys my...

Probably true but whats funny is that I have a LJ wrangler sitting in my garage with the trail doors and safari top on and yet Im always driving my f150 (Only put 2k miles on my LJ since buying the f150 April 2018) because of the comfort, added luxury features and cab space lol.

Its due to cooling issues, which is why the ecodiesel will tow less than a gas JT.

Which applies to the gvwr but not towards payload as its not sprung weight.

Camper is 3395lbs loaded with all gear, 40gallons of water, 5gal of diesel, food, fullsize spare, has a galvanized frame, aluminum everything else besides the tire carrier, canvas rtt w/ annex, additional tent addon, canvas awning, air suspension, dual lithium batteries, onboard BMS, inverter...

Thats the purpose of my thread? This would be towing my camper more than anything.

I didn't want it to get into a debate, but I would be ordering the diesel which we still dont know payload specs yet. Not worrying about the tow decrease from 7k to potentially 6k. I don't need the rack or rtt on the JT was just thinking of additional options. I already have a fully capable...

Thank you for the honest opinion. We had the Ecodiesel in our '15 GC prior to this GC 3.6 and we loved the power. This was before we bought the camper.

As someone who lives in Denver and tows a 3400lb offroad camper on a regular basis, I've been heavily contemplating going to the Ecodiesel for its torque. Currently have a '17 GC Trailhawk w/ 3.6 and 8speed and it's awful towing the camper through the rockies and mountain passes. Now granted the...

Which I figured, but it would be nice to know the actual amount vs just guessing. It could make or break my decision even if I eliminated some of my bed rack and gear. Getting the 3.6 isn't an option and why the wife’s GC is being traded in for a different manufacturer’s suv next summer. But if...

what bothers me is it's hard for me to spend $60k on a JT and not even know what the actual specs are going to be because FCA hasn't announced anything. I would have no problems adding airbags to the rear when towing the camper.

New member but been following the threads for a couple of months. I know coming in here is like going to a coke dealer and asking if his coke is the best resulting in biased answers but it's worth a shot. I'm on the fence of ordering a 2021 JTR w/ tow package. Please feel free to tell me if...

Has anyone been able to actually confirm the towing and payload specs of the Ecodiesel JT? It has me not the fence and afraid to pull the trigger on ordering and sacrificing too much loss.