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  1. How long will you wait!

    No I don't see that at all. The diesel upgrade in my F 350 is a bit over $9k for 935 lbs of torque 6.7 L V8. Betting the D option on the JT is more like $2k total.
  2. Let’s talk Ecodiesel

    I had just driven down this and turned around to drive back up, guy with a camera told me to stop as it wanted to take a pic...YEA, not a good time for the engine to shut down and restart.
  3. Jeep Gladiator Dead in >24 hours. Never buy from Lake Elsinore CDJR.

    I think you are using onomatopoeic out of context. Onomatopoeic are words that sound like the sound: Dogs BARK, snakes HISS, Birds COO, CRACK of the whip etc. Use "carry-on" by the military is generally used when an officer enters the enlisted space be it barracks, motor pool or other areas...
  4. Jeep Gladiator Dead in >24 hours. Never buy from Lake Elsinore CDJR.

    Over the years I have bought a lot of new vehicles. I too have had some issues I discovered and in almost all cases I was able to fix myself. You may have done this, but this is what I would have done. A leak on a new rig is either loose fitting or its a seal. Loose fitting you can prob...
  5. Let’s see your pets cause they are the best companion you can have!!!!!

    This is Buddy, full blood coon hound, put the hunt in that dog will hunt. Told GOD that when I died, send me to where he is, cause I know he is waiting on me. The other 3 are my Blood Hound Duke, and 2 Doxy's Camo and Little Boy...
  6. Engineering Gladiator's Tow Rating & SAE J2807

    It would behoove you to read it IF you intend to tow or not and might prompt you to order the tow package. For you guys who are going to add taller tires,m it's a MUST read. The Engineering Behind the Jeep Gladiator's Tow Rating, and Why the Diesel Will Tow Less David Tracy "Right now...
  7. Dealership *already* offering discounts

    If they put on the MOPAR lift kit, but $!500 is a lot of coin for a 2 in lift kit, not a lot of bang for your buck IMO...When I had my offroad shop I did not use any kits, I used only individual components...yea a few dollars more but far superior results. If you wanted a kit I would just send...
  8. My horrible Jeep gladiator dealership experience

    It's age old, every forum every few weeks it seems to break out, not sure why, but it seems to revolve around the fact that a Jeep is NOT a ___________ (fill in blank). FACT JACK: let me know when your _________ (fill in blank) comes out with a Fold down windshield and removable doors then we...
  9. Dealership *already* offering discounts

    OK, thanks on the window sticker, must have not paid attention: That said here is the MSRP on the Rubicon for $66k MSRP TOTAL PRICE: * $59,090 WTH?!?!?! $6k diff in price Common 2 in lift is springs, shocks and a couple of brackets, UNDER $500, MAYBE 3-4 hr labor MAX. Tires and wheels or...
  10. My horrible Jeep gladiator dealership experience

    I don't know if you are a troll or not, that said: Don't look for $10,000 off MSRP anytime soon unless its a used one! You are right, they don't appeal to most truck buyers they just appeal to Jeep Truck buyers that was the goal, not to try and sell you another Ram wannabe! V6 is a decent...
  11. Dealership *already* offering discounts

    I did not see any stickers, nor does it say MSRP, what it says is LIST price, so how do you end up with a $66k + price when every option added does not even come close???
  12. Dealership *already* offering discounts

    Something odd: The Rubicon is listed at $66080 List price, but the pic shows it as a softtop and std trans. Then I went to the Jeep Build and selected every single option available which only adds up to $6410...maybe they have added on those INFLATED Nitrogen tires and lifetime window tint...again
  13. Pulling a Camper

    What they want to do is tow 7000+ lbs and then say it does not do it very well, in fact, it does not tow like an F 450!!!! I have hauled/towed at the outer limits and I can assure all that is is not an easy tow, lot of stress. When you work at the outer edges of parameters it is what it is...
  14. NO military discount

    Read my post, all it takes is to be an "Honorably Discharged Veteran" . see post number 28...
  15. Any Texas Dealers Matching NC's 7% off MSRP?

    Steve, I hope it works out, but buying below EP without dealer/factory incentives is beyond anything I have ever seen or heard of. I have bought way below EP, but ONLY with incentives that could be added in. I bought my '17 F 350 at about 12% below invoice, but had some serious incentives and...
  16. Any Texas Dealers Matching NC's 7% off MSRP?

    I would like to see a complete deal that someone has got at 7% below Invoice. 7% below invoice would put it way below "EP" pricing. You can do it, but there has to be some serious incentives mixed into the package.
  17. NO military discount

    "HONORING THOSE WHO SERVE $500 MILITARY BONUS CASH( Disclosure3) ON SELECT MODELS If you’re Active, Active Reserve, Retired Military, Retired Military Reserve or are an honorably discharged veteran within 12 months of your discharge date, you’re eligible for $500 Military Bonus Cash(...
  18. Pulling a Camper

    Bob, think you are missing the point. I just ordered a $60,825 +TT&L JT that Jeep has been splashing its tow/haul capabilities all over the Internet for months and it does not come with a built-in brake controller...GIVE ME A *&%ING BREAK! Someone in Jeep needs to find a new line of...
  19. Color Remorse

    Firecracker RED!
  20. Tired of waiting

    You may love Jeeps, but you clearly do not understand them. You certainly cannot compare a full-size Ram truck to a JT. I drive a F 350 Crew Cab, Long Bed, WHY? Because I need it! I also have on order a Rubicon JT, WHY? Because I can use it also. I am NOT disappointed that the JT will not...




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