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  1. Ha

    More than 1-2% below invoice is the exception not the rule. Different dealers, different business models. That isn't ripping you off, that is basic incompatibility between you the customer and them the dealer. Some customers a dealer just doesn't want because the customer has to fit the...
  2. Disappointed with poor quality control

    Your simply implying that a failure to deliver the vehicle in pristine condition, somehow suggests that FCA doesn't care, or has failed in some way to mitigate circumstances which are entirely beyond their control. That is simply not true.
  3. Disappointed with poor quality control

    I don't disagree that it should be a "team". Reality however is that to meet market demands FCA is using the lowest common denominator to deliver their product. Then, some dildo who an't pass a drug screen and get a better job is doing the pre=delivery. Is that a travesty? Maybe. But what it...
  4. Disappointed with poor quality control

    I'm in the same field, but are you suggesting that FCA should pay a bonus for Cletus to successfully deliver to the dealer and then Chip get it to the line unscathed? Are you ready to pay for that?
  5. Disappointed with poor quality control

    LOL, you should check with the sales manager and see if a 1%er sign on the front of your cube is cool
  6. Disappointed with poor quality control

    What would you have them do exactly? Escort each individual unit to the dealer? And then what? Bird Dog Chip the PD guy while he cleans it up? At some point a rational person has to accept that it is no longer the manufacturers problem, when some low functioning yutz damages a vehicle in...
  7. Disappointed with poor quality control

    Why does this site allow this troll to continue to post? Anyone with two functioning brain cells knows this is an after manufacture problem, yet for some reason this is still being batted around. Don't send me any more PM's dude, your problem is between you and your dealer. I'm sorry you...
  8. Disappointed with poor quality control

    Literally nothing in this train wreck has anything at all to do with FCA. Auto transport and/or dealership, absolutely, FCA? LOL, not at all. There is a reason they come with the throttle disabled for transport, and it isn't because the transporter is careful with them. I imagine the dealer...
  9. ECRI--Recalabrate tire size etc.

    so how much is the bypass module, unlock and where do you source them?
  10. Light bright blows their motor, prodigy turbo the culprit

    Pre-ignition if bad enough will beat the bottom end out of an engine. Positive manifold pressure on an 11.5 :1 engine with low octane fuel and a bad tune, will definitely destroy a bottom end.
  11. Installing Stock Rubicon Skid Plate on Sport

    You're going to need the bumper, skid plate and hardware to connect the bumper to the skid plate, the necessary brackets (2 rear) are already there. If you are not mounting a winch you will want the close out panel that goes between the bumper and grille
  12. Leverage Rear Passenger Harness for 12v Power?

    $10 multi-meter from Harbor Freight will answer your question. Speculatively, I would be almost certain that at least one of those vacant terminals is hot
  13. 2007 Jeep Wrangler - Help with check engine code

    https://www.engine-codes.com/p0420_jeep.html https://www.engine-codes.com/p0430_jeep.html P0420 is the upstream O2 sensor and P0430 is the downstream sensor. The values between the two sensors should be different, indicating that the catalyst is functioning normally, when they are reading the...
  14. Mudding harmful to Jeep?

    LOL, Facebook advice? " Hillary in a landslide! " There is the entire value of Facebook advice clearly defined in 4 words.
  15. Mudding harmful to Jeep?

    Poll is flawed. The option: "It's fine, wash it as soon as possible because mud is easier to remove wet than dry" is the correct answer,
  16. How could Jeep make a commercial more like this Defender ad

    Meh, the Brits gave up their guns, knives, freedom and imported hundreds of thousands of culturally incompatible people. They've been driven off of the European continent no less than twice and saved by the Colony that kicked their ass the same number of times. I'll remain unimpressed with...
  17. Why you SHOULD be able to tow more than sticker outside of the mountains

    Once the weight of the towed item exceeds the weight of the tow vehicle, the operator effort goes up substantially on vehicles not specifically designed to mitigate that effort. This is one of those cases where you can study numbers to your hearts content, but when you try to apply that...
  18. Why you SHOULD be able to tow more than sticker outside of the mountains

    The manufacturers decision making flow chart goes like this : How much can we advertise this truck to tow without it self destructing? Can we self certify that using the SAE standard? OK good that's it. My point is entirely that as you cross that 5k mark, driver effort will increase...




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