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You could do that with the 3.6L as well, but it does scale in favor of the diesel. I'm actually hoping that FCA will put a 22 gallon tank in the diesel. You would think they could find the space for the DEF tank on the larger frame without having to reduce the fuel tank size. And Titan shows...

Thanks for the pics. It looks much better in those photos.

This is the main reason I'm holding out to see what the real numbers are on the diesel JT are. I am not concerned with ROI, I just wanted more range and better towing in the 3k-4k pound range here in the mountains. But I'm beginning to think the range is not really going to be there. If it...

Rather you lift it or not will play a huge factor in what you should get. If you are set on running 37s (which are not needed for your stated use cases are), the Rubicon would be a better choice for you. To me it sounds like you would be well served by the Mojave. If you don't have plans on...

It looks like the canopy is about 1" taller than the truck's cab. Is that correct?

By sleeving it. Now, I don't think that is what Jeep as done and I think the rear axle is the standard 10mm axle.

Yep, it is going to be optioned based like all ratings. It does look like Jeep is saying it is going to start with 40lbs more capacity than equally equipped Rubicon though.

There are a couple of interesting things in that Jalopnik article: If you watch the video, at the 7:07 mark, you can see that the silver part of the frame is not just added welds. It appears to wrap around the black frame (follow the top right frame rail from the back towards the front). I...

I did not know an option list for the Mojave was released yet. Can you point me to where you saw it please?

I should have been more clear. I was talking about a bumper that has a winch plate and skid plate for the shock reservoirs. I am also sure that any Rubicon bumper will fit on the Mojave, just without its Rubicon skid plate (if that makes sense).

So far all of the photos we have seen have had color matched fenders. I wonder if that is going to be standard on the Mojave. I'm also pretty sure the aftermarket will come out with a front bumper that will fit it and let you mount a winch. Without the ability to mount a winch, this is dead...

I did not pick up on anything in that article that mentioned additional sand and dust protection. Which part makes you think it would not be able to ford 30" of water?

I'm not an orange kind of guy, but that does look good with all the accents. The only thing I'm not liking the looks on is the silver skid plate. They should have done that in black.

Good to know, thanks for the correction.

If the Rubicon does not need it, why would they spend the extra money to beef up its frame? They would have to either A) pass that cost on to you, or B) take the extra cost out of their profit margin? Neither one of those makes any sense for the company or the customer. They beefed up the...

I think @Bobzdar pointed out most of the things we are going to add to the S Max to get it "overland ready". As he pointed out, that is going to eat a lot of the S Max's extra capacity. If you put even a modest 2" lift on it, there goes those special rear springs anyways. And since almost no...

From an overlanding rig build point of view, the Mojave throws a big wrench in the Rubi vs S Max thought process. I'd love to see some part numbers on the FOX bits to see if they could support a 2" lift. If they can, the Mojave will probably put this debate to bed... for me at least.

I agree 100% with this... and I'm not even a desert runner. I think they should be marketing this as the overlanding version of the JT.

It is probably a simple case of F=m*a. When rock crawling and doing "Rubicon" things, FCA knows that the a portion of that formula is going to be low. While doing "Mojave" things, a is going to be much greater, so they beefed up the frame (probably learning from Ford as RH 67 says). Rock...

The payload is the same as the Rubi which I find kind of impressive since the truck should be heavier with the beefed up frame and knuckles. I guess the tow rating is where it took the hit. I think that is probably acceptable for the intended use of this version.