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1953 M38A1 with Buick V-6; 1973 CJ-5; 2022 JTR (sold); 2024 JTR

Which the dealer, of course, never uses.

I might consider that PHEV JTR next year or probably the year after, but we'll see. We drove over to Arizona from Albuquerque a couple weeks ago, and I got tired of stopping for gas every 200 miles. The off-road work (I'm a geologist) was great, but getting there was costly.

About 16 at 75 mph, and lucky to get 17 at lower speeds. Lifted and 35s I suspect.

I had a 2015 BMW Z4 with a MT and that car screamed down the highway. No MT now.

I had a 2022 JTR manual and it got better mileage than the 2024 JTR auto.

Does that mean that some of us are not primates?

Yep. We have my JTR and a RAV4 Prime PHEV.

My 2024 JTR can barely reach 300 miles before I have to fill up. I'm leaving Albuquerque for Gila Bend soon, and I'll fill up at least once on the way. Our RAV4 PHEV gets well over 450 miles on EV and gas combined, and around town with our rooftop solar free. I believe we've heard all these...

Also a PHEV solves the short range issue until such time that the batteries improve, and there are charging stations readily available.

I'm an archaeological geochemist, so I've analyzed many different materials in the last 35 years+. Mostly rocks, but many metals as well: www.swxrflab.net.

I'm still dumb, but not young.

Vietnam 1969-70.

FYI, I run a x-ray fluorescence spectrometry lab and analyze metals for many with similar questions. If you send me a sample, I can tell you what it is (I'm not taking it off my JTR though).

As a young pup, I had a 73 CJ-5 I got new for $3400.00, that's right 3400, and put a steel cabled Warn on the front (I was 24). I used to go up to the mountains in east San Diego County when it snowed and pulled out the idiots in their sedans for 25 bucks. If they said no, I'd just get back in...

True, I've rarely used my Warn for me, but pulled out a lot of others.

And if the cable snaps, there'd be two jeep owners.

I had a 2022 JTR with a manual, and a 2024 with AT, and not much different. The MT might have been a bit better, but I'm not sure. Either way mileage is poor.

I use in case I need to haul my JTR out from the rear.

I have the Bilstein Mopar lift, and on 35s they are both at 42" at the bottom of my JTR fender. According to some here there must be something wrong with mine!