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What I find interesting is that when Kevin started posting his videos on the JL forum, when it was just them wheeling, people fell over themselves to throw compliments. Suddenly, when they decide to monetize the popularity generated from those videos, they're a problem. Smh.

So is it 500# total payload with the mid gate position, or 500# on the tailgate, assuming the load is spread across the 3 supports (2×4s and gate) as directed?

I tested this one in Mystic, CT. Sport S, max tow, along with most other options. Msrp $46k.

He said the "3.6 w/upgrade," although wiki says the upgrade was for GC and Durango (and JL).

Especially because, iirc, one of their videos after the launch had Roman gushing about how much room he had in the back.

??? I test drove a Sport S with max tow last week.

Place had a lot of Wranglers, with both Gladiators right out front. It wasn't so much for curb appeal, as wanting something to be able to show, until they got a decent inventory.

Line above the hood. Taught the same way.

How did you feel about the top of the windshield cutting off your view? I'm only 5'-11", but long in the torso, so I generally have to put my seats all the way down in cars to have enough headroom. I test drove a Sport S yesterday, and with the seat all the way down, I felt like it cut off...

Near Concord. I grew up in Sandown. We had the wood stove too and I did more than my fair share of shoveling. Still doing it at 40...f'ing snowblower died, lol. A few years ago there was a storm and major power outages the day before Thanksgiving. In what dovetails with my view above, my...

I don't necessarily disagree, but how would a few hundred extra pounds impact off road performance? It would certainly affect the payload and tow ratings of the Gladiator for doing truck things. Also have to consider the packaging issues for vehicles that weren't designed as ev or hybrid...

Right, that's the point. We're taking issue with the prohibitions against "gouging." To the extent that "gouging" prohibitions work, they reduce supply and result in less equitable rationing. While jacking the price in the face of a crisis seems unfair, it actually provides a valuable...

This part of the discussion should probably move to the Lounge, and as I've contributed to the off topic conversation, I'll start it there.

Apologies for adding to the hijack... Let's say that I live outside of the affected area of that hurricane. I can easily get fuel at regular prices. Let's also posit that I'm just a greedy mf'er who doesn't give a d@mn about others. Let's assume no price gouging laws. Gas jumps to $10/gallon...

Regular fenders. Edit: The white Rubi seen through the front windows is the other Glad on the lot.

No, just curious whether others had seen this so far. Edit: Price gouging laws are stupid. They only lead to shortages and less equitable rationing of available supply.:like:

I missed the part where it bothered me. Care to point it out? I'll wait.

Just test drove a Sport S w/max tow here in CT. This dealer had an addendum for $2000 over msrp to discourage a purchase, because they only had 2 Glads (Rubi and the Sport), and their first two were bought within hours. They're trying to keep it on lot to have something to show. Anybody else...