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We need larger! It does indeed look great from the preview though!

Look forward to seeing it Trout. Bet it looks great!

I've had the Mopar kit and BFG KM3 37s sitting at the dealer for months. My hope is that the Rubi 4.10s and lower first gear of the JT manual and the obvious ability to control shift points will make it do just fine. In my mind the new ratios are better, lower first and higher 6th. More...

I agree it's a more optioned order, but do a little snooping. There are a ton of highly optioned automatics. None in manuals. I tried. I used the Jeep vehicle locator using most of the major metropolitan areas of the northeast US zip codes as a center trying to find what I want, or something...

I wouldn't worry much about punishment... they're nowhere near engaged enough with the pulse of their best customers to punish you. Nor reward you. Nor take much of any consideration of you whatsoever. Oblivious is probably the right word. I'm more inclined to your second theory... we're odd...

I'll be curious what you find out. And yeah, I can't even conceptualize telling someone "sorry, you have to wait a week". Let alone months. We run around about 100-150 tractor trailer and triaxle bulk deliveries per day with an average 1 day lead time. That's Order to D1 to JB to KZ to...

I'm sure the bean counters tried. Frustrate enough customers and they'll be unemployed bean counters. Only way I have any voice is to walk away. And I will.

Like @steffen707 said, if your dealer honors it it should be on top of your existing deal.

Yep, was told week of 8-26 for build start. Still showing that today. It's some small justice!

He's probably more or less telling the truth as far as the core build. Start to finish down the line probably isn't all that long. It's getting there in the first place, going to JB for things like bedliner and headliner, and KZ waiting for shipping and the actual shipping process that take...

From my salesperson. I just asked to confirm I wasn't in the Trout and Thorny shuffle and she sent it to me. Far as I know all dealers have access to that, so you could ask yours. I've seen it at other dealers as well.

I'm hanging, until Sunday September 1st. Since they said week of 8-26, I'll give it the full 7 days. If my build status doesn't change by then, I'm going to let my wallet do the talking and buy from another manufacturer. I can't in good conscience reward their behavior by giving them my money...

It's a small ray of sunshine in my ongoing saga. At least I save that now.

I hope you're right. I've been known to hold a grudge a looooooooong time. And I have a size 12 chip on my shoulder now over all this. I have my "didn't start building my Jeep the week of 8-26-19" Raptor identified. Just have to do the deal and give them the $50k+ Jeep was going to get...

Beautiful pearl of wisdom there! The only thing I'm sure of is that I'm not sure of anything. You're so right, it's like I keep expecting things to come back into some state of logic and normalcy. Something predictable. It's madness.

That makes no sense. I'd be thoroughly confuzzled. Only nugget of wisdom I have is that I asked about the 8-28-19 date on the screenshot I was sent, and was told that date is never right. Ugh.

Yeah... the GCLE thing makes otherwise legitimate griping seem petty. I'm still scheduled for build...

I never dreamed getting someone to take $50,000+ would be so hard. Your and Trouts experiences are horrifying me. I haven't heard anything, but I dread the notion that this is happening to me as well and I just don't know it. I'm going to have to check now.

I feel your pain. Again, not JB, I'm supposedly D1 now with a build estimate of next week. They'll have to forgive me if I don't believe it 'til I see it. 46 days mid build cycle is madness... or it's madness that no one has the sense to know that that might bother a customer, reach out, give...

Driving an automatic does not automatically disqualify one as a MTC Member. I appreciate your unwillingness to accept their nonsense. :like: Granted, they're still getting a sale out of you, but it's the principle.