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The dealers are just horrible. They couldn't care less, and they tell me they get little to no support from anyone higher up. Not sure whether that's true or not, but the dealers are horrible. I don't want anything new. Fix what you have. Get someone higher up in the chain of command to also...

Sad but absolutely true. Instant gratification. now now now.

Holy crap I thought that was the flux capacitor!! Nice Job!

Is that just a previous version of the software and it need to update?

Your post makes me think of a pair of pants I ordered from a company that shipped DHL. I live in PA, and the pants came out of NJ. DHL took the package and shipped it to CA, back to NJ, then to me. No wonder shipping costs are out of hand. That package had some miles on it before I got it

I believe they do and report what they can, and I'm sure the Jeep Cares people have good intentions, but I agree nothing meaningful ever happens. They can only report the issues, but management have to act on it - and that's where the rub is.

Agreed. You just have to walk away and let him stew. Give it one or three days. He'll call.

Another concern of mine would be what if you take delivery then have an issue with it? Can they get the parts to fix it or will they string you along like they're hamstringing the people who have one on order? But I'm hearing similar things all around. In addition to my JT, I have a 2022...

it seems like all vehicles are doing that. At least something similar. I guess its the whole thing of the head unit being the entire brains of the car and it needs to be on. I don't see why it needs to be making noise though.

Can you imagine how awesome things would be if these people used the smarts and ingenuity they have to make things better rather than scam people for a quick buck?

The scammers even go after you if you're the seller. I had a wood stove insert that I replaced with a new pellet insert, and posted it on FB Marketplace. Within 20 minutes I started getting FB messages asking if its still available and they would like to buy it and for me to text them at a...

I have learned that even if someone buys this and you miss it, there's a hundred more where that came from. As long as you're not in an urgent need, you can get a god deal. This may sound stupid (and it probably is) but when I go to buy a new vehicle, I'm prepared to say "no" at least 2 times...

Expect a call in a few days as long as you stay away. They need to hear crickets form you now. From that price history, they're looking to see how far you're willing to go. If you really want to play, when they come back (and I'm pretty sure they will) them you want 40K. They'll of course say...

are these vehicles sitting in dealer inventory or are they something people are only special ordering? I have yet to see one in the wild.

Some vehicles now will idle for an hour and shut off after an hour (unless you tell it). I believe the trigger is opening the driver door.

I did the exact same thing a few years ago when I owned my JL. The seat takes a different size socket (than what I had) and if you have someone around with small hands you may be able to get it once you take the seat out. Then stuff socks/rags in that area. To this day I can't believe they...

I could almost stomach a stupid amount for a new JT (almost) if when I had an issue I went to the dealer and they said "hey, no problem - it may take a few days, take this piece of crap and drive it for a couple of days while we fix it" and actually fix it without any whining or the run-around...

Holy crap I paid that for my '22 Tundra.

Every once in a while I'll mess with the Jeep guys. When I'm driving my Tundra I'll flash a Jeep guy a Jeep wave. I usually get a look like wait..... what??? :LOL:

and if someone doesn't steal them, they're talking the catalytic converters :mad: