4xe TEST DRIVE

[Mkcagle]

3500 pound tow rating. Not bad but marginal for many current JT/TT owners. Hopefully they will find a way to upgrade that in the future JT hybrid.

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[Mac]

I don’t see the advantage of a plug in hybrid, from what I have read the full hybrid seems much more useful.

 

[Dqban]

I don’t see the advantage of a plug in hybrid, from what I have read the full hybrid seems much more useful.

That makes no sense...plug in hybrid acts just like a full hybrid if you dont precharge. You get the advantage of being able to plug in also.

adding electric motor to the gas one is awesome...screw turbos or super chargers. Give me an extra 100+ Instant hp and torque any day with better gas millage.
why do you think all the super exotics are going hybrid even if retaing an ICE engine...the performance gains are hard to replicate.

Gas engines are nice but the hybrid only makes it better....look at RAV4 prime...5.5 sec suv

 

[Mac]

That makes no sense...plug in hybrid acts just like a full hybrid if you dont precharge. You get the advantage of being able to plug in also.

adding electric motor to the gas one is awesome...screw turbos or super chargers. Give me an extra 100+ Instant hp and torque any day with better gas millage.
why do you think all the super exotics are going hybrid even if retaing an ICE engine...the performance gains are hard to replicate.

Gas engines are nice but the hybrid only makes it better....look at RAV4 prime...5.5 sec suv

A plug in hybrid does not charge the battery when you drive it, once the battery is exhausted it has to be plugged back in, you may get a couple percent from regenerative braking but it does not recharge like a full hybrid.

 

[marcwithac]

A plug in hybrid does not charge the battery when you drive it, once the battery is exhausted it has to be plugged back in, you may get a couple percent from regenerative braking but it does not recharge like a full hybrid.

It does charge while you drive. How fast I'm not sure. But to say it does not charge the battery when you drive it is 100% wrong. It has a hybrid mode which does just that. Tops up the battery while you drive switching between gas and electric as needed.

 

[Mac]

I disagree, look up the definitions of the different types of hybrids, the plug in is not a full hybrid with the ability to be charged by plugging in.

 

[XJADDICTION]

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That makes no sense...plug in hybrid acts just like a full hybrid if you dont precharge. You get the advantage of being able to plug in also.

adding electric motor to the gas one is awesome...screw turbos or super chargers. Give me an extra 100+ Instant hp and torque any day with better gas millage.
why do you think all the super exotics are going hybrid even if retaing an ICE engine...the performance gains are hard to replicate.

Gas engines are nice but the hybrid only makes it better....look at RAV4 prime...5.5 sec suv

It does have the I-4 turbo as well as hybrid tech. A good combo.

Now imaging the possibilities with the newer lighter weight batteries and a diesel!

 

[redrider]

There is also the issue of competent service personnel. Electrical problems are a great catch all money maker partly due to most folks failure/refusal to understand any thing above sixth grade math and science. Part A malfunctioned, taking out part(s) B through whatever got replaced and did not fix the problem but you get charged for. Caveat Emptor.

 

[Dqban]

I disagree, look up the definitions of the different types of hybrids, the plug in is not a full hybrid with the ability to be charged by plugging in.

Sir, you are just wrong. Plug-in hybrid will behave like a normal hybrid once the battery is depleted from full charge.
if you start with enough of a battery charge after being plugged in you may drive an electric only...Some thing not possible in a traditional hybrid

It's not a one or the other thing. Plug-in simply ads that ability to the traditional hybrid set up.

that is why the RAV4 prime is so fast.... it uses both when you press the button to use the fast mode. It uses electric only when you want .... The jeep plug-in hybrid behaves the same exact way. Just check their website very detailed explanation

 

[Dqban]

A plug in hybrid does not charge the battery when you drive it, once the battery is exhausted it has to be plugged back in, you may get a couple percent from regenerative braking but it does not recharge like a full hybrid.

This statement is Wrong. It behaves like a traditional hybrid just like every other plug in hybrid when the battery is depleted. Plug-in only I had the ability to plug-in and run electric only.
where does a traditional hybrid get it electricity from since it can't plug-in?

https://www.jeep.com/wrangler-4xe.html

 

[Mac]

According to definition and actual owners on the JL forum it does not recharge like a full hybrid

 

[Dqban]

A plug in hybrid does not charge the battery when you drive it, once the battery is exhausted it has to be plugged back in, you may get a couple percent from regenerative braking but it does not recharge like a full hybrid.

You are incorrect. Not sure where you looked up your definitions but a plug-in hybrid uses regenerative braking or the electricity from your wall to charge the battery.
this is how jeep does it. Check to their website.


A traditional hybrid uses regenerative braking. No plug-in.

Some of them also use a motor to charge their electric battery such as the BMW I3 set up

 

[Dqban]

According to definition and actual owners on the JL forum it does not recharge like a full hybrid

The wrangler uses either a hybrid mode by default. You may plug it in. Or you can rely on the regenerative braking. This is straight from their website. Please look it up and confirm for yourself

This is basically the same set up every plug-in hybrid uses.

https://www.jeep.com/wrangler-4xe.html

Assuming car and driver to be a relative authority on automobiles

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/features/amp27127697/plug-in-hybrid-2019/

 

[AggieJeep]

This statement is Wrong. It behaves like a traditional hybrid just like every other plug in hybrid when the battery is depleted. Plug-in only I had the ability to plug-in and run electric only.
where does a traditional hybrid get it electricity from since it can't plug-in?

https://www.jeep.com/wrangler-4xe.html

I think some folks are mixing in old definitions. Things have evolved since the early designs that did run only on electric and then switch to ICE drive when the batteries were down. Reference the documentation for the specific vehicle.

I love a good V8 as much as the next guy, but electric is the future.

 

[Mac]

Agree with you on that, but the plug in hybrid is not the same as a full hybrid that just adds the ability to charge being plugged in. A plug in hybrid does not charge from the gas engine in the same way a full hybrid does.

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