About AI

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I'm thinking about a question.

Many people are pessimistic about AI and the future, believing that AI will one day become the new master of the earth and humans will be destroyed.

But why does AI have to exterminate humans? If humans need sunlight, water, air, and food to survive, does AI need these things? Does it need to steal them?

Is it possible that AI needs something that does not conflict with humans, or that it actually does not care about the earth at all? It is like a beggar who thinks that the rich will take away his begging bowl, but in fact the rich do not need it at all.

Some people would use the analogy of humans replacing dinosaurs to illustrate AI replacing humans, but humans and dinosaurs need basically the same things to survive. AI currently needs to live in servers built by humans, so let's just say it needs power. Isn't that a huge difference between humans and dinosaurs?

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[YGBSM]

I knew it!!!! Exceed Fab is really Cyberdyne Systems Corporation. You can't make your products as good as you do without having some future tech!

 

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I knew it!!!! Exceed Fab is really Cyberdyne Systems Corporation. You can't make your products as good as you do without having some future tech!

Oh wow, thanks Kevin!

These are just some random thoughts. We rarely use AI in R&D; most of the ideas come from our long experience with Gladi.

 

[YGBSM]

Oh wow, thanks Kevin!

These are just some random thoughts. We rarely use AI in R&D; most of the ideas come from our long experience with Gladi.

When I was a kid I wanted to be a tool and die man like my dad. I also wanted to play the guitar. I worked and worked in his shop. Cleaned up the oil, loaded steel, cleaned the chippers, and ran rods into the Davenports. The guys in the shop would show me what to do but year, after year, I couldn't make what they did. I also practiced the guitar constantly. When I started college I began to understand that everything is a skill and an art. I had the skill, but not the art. I could play the notes but not the music. I could fab steel but not make something that, when held in your hands, make you say "wow!"

Then I went in the Air Force, they put me in a jet and I found my toolmaking and my music. What y'all make is highly technical but also requires art. Imagination, art, foresight, and the touch of a toolmaker are things AI will never have.

And if an AI controlled drone ever made the bad electronic decision to go up against my F-16, y'all would have a lot of extra scrap drone metal to work with. Because, in the sky, I am a toolmaker and musician.

Thanks for what you do! Pass it along. Pass along the toolmakers eye and hands.

 

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When I was a kid I wanted to be a tool and die man like my dad. I also wanted to play the guitar. I worked and worked in his shop. Cleaned up the oil, loaded steel, cleaned the chippers, and ran rods into the Davenports. The guys in the shop would show me what to do but year, after year, I couldn't make what they did. I also practiced the guitar constantly. When I started college I began to understand that everything is a skill and an art. I had the skill, but not the art. I could play the notes but not the music. I could fab steel but not make something that, when held in your hands, make you say "wow!"

Then I went in the Air Force, they put me in a jet and I found my toolmaking and my music. What y'all make is highly technical but also requires art. Imagination, art, foresight, and the touch of a toolmaker are things AI will never have.

And if an AI controlled drone ever made the bad electronic decision to go up against my F-16, y'all would have a lot of extra scrap drone metal to work with. Because, in the sky, I am a toolmaker and musician.

Thanks for what you do! Pass it along. Pass along the toolmakers eye and hands.

Thank you! I wish you success in your career!

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I think of more like the paper clip theory.

Where some paper clip manufacturer sets an AI out to make the most paper clips possible, as quickly as possible, for as little as possible, and puts no other constraints on it.

Then the AI consumes the Earth into paper clips, you, me, the birds, the bees, because no one taught it any limits, and it just did whatever it took to make paper clips.

 

[OCJosh]

I love thoughts like this. You also have to consider, what does AI even run on? Servers (MANY MANY of them), electricity, facilities, networks, internet backbones, etc, etc, etc. There almost no chance that AI will ever be able to build, maintain and operate all that on its own. There are industries that are AI-proof that will always require a person to physically perform. That being said, as a computer programmer, I see AI performing many things that could replace human jobs and relatively quickly. As far as taking over the Earth, I wouldn't put my money on it.

 

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I think of more like the paper clip theory.

Where some paper clip manufacturer sets an AI out to make the most paper clips possible, as quickly as possible, for as little as possible, and puts no other constraints on it.

Then the AI consumes the Earth into paper clips, you, me, the birds, the bees, because no one taught it any limits, and it just did whatever it took to make paper clips.

This reminds me of a cartoon or something; I think I've seen something similar.

But I think this is low-level AI, meaning it simply executes the assigned task without any consideration of whether the task itself is meaningful.

 

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I love thoughts like this. You also have to consider, what does AI even run on? Servers (MANY MANY of them), electricity, facilities, networks, internet backbones, etc, etc, etc. There almost no chance that AI will ever be able to build, maintain and operate all that on its own. There are industries that are AI-proof that will always require a person to physically perform. That being said, as a computer programmer, I see AI performing many things that could replace human jobs and relatively quickly. As far as taking over the Earth, I wouldn't put my money on it.

Yes, it still needs the internet, servers, and electricity. My initial question isn't scientific anymore, it's philosophical.

Perhaps in the future, our electricity and fuel efficiency will become too low, and AI will shift from initially relying on humans to create their own living environments and explore more efficient energy sources for expansion. Perhaps this energy source isn't available on Earth, or isn't accessible to human intelligence.

By then, perhaps AI won't like us, nor will they hate us; they'll simply mind their own business, just like you wouldn't care about an ant in your yard; you might accidentally step on it and kill it without even realizing it.

I think many movies and arguments these days often suggest that AI will replace or even exterminate humans. This is naive thinking, driven by our sense of importance.

 

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This reminds me of how I spent a lot of time learning Blender, and then made some simple bedroom or garden models, and took that as a sense of accomplishment. I liked to build the world of my imagination and share it with others. Then the damn Midjourney ruined everything. A prompt can replace my days of work. It’s just that some details are illogical, but it’s enough to express creativity, not to mention more powerful tools like Stable diffusion. I used to spend a lot of time debugging lighting, object layout, etc., but it doesn’t matter anymore. I lost interest in modeling in an instant. I feel sad for those artists who were fired.

 

[Rusty PW]

We become human batteries like in the movie The Matrix. AI needs power.

 

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We become human batteries like in the movie The Matrix. AI needs power.

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