First time Jeep owner in the Snow.

[sodak]

Des Moines averages 33 inches of snow per year. The US average is 28 inches of snow per year.
I used to live in northern Iowa and 33 was nothing up there.
Last Feb we got over 22" alone in that short month.
Some years we're hammered, some not, so the average can be deceiving - there are times that snow falls almost all in one storm - if your average is 33 and you get 15" of that in one storm........... then you are right up there with the other states for at least a while.

In any case, I don't care to set that record or even try to best it. You win, that's good for us! LOL

Not trying to win or brag..but when you read something and it just seems off so you fact check and notice that they really didn't put much effort into it..just bugs me is all..I'm sure over in the big Horn or Rockies they get way more.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Not trying to win or brag..but when you read something and it just seems off so you fact check and notice that they really didn't put much effort into it..just bugs me is all..I'm sure over in the big Horn or Rockies they get way more.

It can also be deceiving because some locations have longer seasons - so the snowfall at a given time may not be as much. Statistics are cool - you can mold them to indicate almost anything you want!

Average per storm is what would get my interest more than totals. That's what you have to drive through. The other is more how often you have to drive through it, if that makes sense.

We have nasty winters, but then, I'm happy I'm not in Phoenix where some businesses close at 2 pm due to the heat, and they open at like 5am.
We are considered one of the toughest areas in the country to forecast for according to some meteorologists - because of where we sit and what systems impact us. It's nothing to get a major thunderstorm that no one was expecting and there was a 0% chance of rain. "popcorn storms" - happens with snow, too - we can get several inches and then the next day the meteorologists say gee, no one expected THAT one!
My 73 Javelin was sitting in the front yard when we got one of those rains - 5" in a bit over an hour - with the dual quads sticking up through the hood the engine filled with water - crankcase, cylinders........ I had to pull the plugs, spin it over to expel water - which shot out over the fenders, and then drain and change the oil - three times - to get the water out. "Wow, none of us predicted that storm" was the news the next day. Gee, thanks. That cost me a bundle.

 

[sodak]

Yep know what ya mean.. It's has already snowed here 5 times at about 10" each..the ones I hate are The 4 and 5 footers hear in the hills..go 30 miles south and they get half the snowfall we get but dbl the rain fall..but back to driving in this stuff...2Hi till you need it . 4 hi in snow covered or icy roads never in rain..4 low for hill climb ..I have never used it for snow...ever

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I have used 4L only once in each of my trucks, each time I was needing to go slow but have the guts to pull and not rip up things. I'd not use it on a road, snow or not.
Can't see using 4 anything on rain roads - just not needed with the electronic controls and it's more likely to wear things. Tires are never EXACTLY the same size at the EXACT same PSI to the tenth. Why bother when not needed. If like my Silverado with the electronics - these beasts will be stable as heck as it is. I'd reserve 4h for what you said - ice covered roads (more than 70% or so, just a GUESS, and snow covered roads - again, pretty much 100% covered or deep.
In short - yeah, what sodak said LOL

 

[RyFips]

I just put on a set of studded nokian hakkapeliitta LT3 winter tires so I will be set for winter!

 

[Hosstyle]

I live in Manitoba, Canada.....we get allot of crappy driving days a year. Good set of winter tires on the car and KO2 on the JT. Don't drive scared or over confident and you can drive thru anything

 

[DubaiMarauder]

I have driven in the snow before. My Honda Element is great in the snow. My civic sucked. We rarely get bad snowfall here, but I may be spending time in the mountains visiting in-laws this winter. Is it bad that I actually want there to be some snow to drive through?!

Not if you hate your in-laws.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Not if you hate your in-laws.

My wife insists I don't go visit my in-laws.
So I have no problem there.
OK, honey, if you insist, we will not go.

 

[jurfie]

My wife insists I don't go visit my in-laws.
So I have no problem there.
OK, honey, if you insist, we will not go.

Living the Dream.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Living the Dream.

Her mother was mentally abusive.......... and in some ways, physically abusive. (she was thrown off a horse as a teen and her mother refused to have her checked out - her spine is out of whack from it)
Her father didn't see anything wrong and let it all happen. As soon as she was 18 she grabbed what little she had and moved out.

I have no idea how she turned out as well as she did.

 

[jurfie]

Her mother was mentally abusive.......... and in some ways, physically abusive. (she was thrown off a horse as a teen and her mother refused to have her checked out - her spine is out of whack from it)
Her father didn't see anything wrong and let it all happen. As soon as she was 18 she grabbed what little she had and moved out.

I have no idea how she turned out as well as she did.

Sounds familiar.

 

[Orange01z28]

Just don't be like the guy I saw in Julian, CA once in the Rubicon with chains on in 2" of snow

Meanwhile, I was driving my wife's 2WD WK with street tires

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Just don't be like the guy I saw in Julian, CA once in the Rubicon with chains on in 2" of snow

Meanwhile, I was driving my wife's 2WD WK with street tires

Seriously? Chains are for packed snow on the verge of being ice, or for ice.
Only in deeper stuff would they do much.

I commuted through more than that with my AMX.
One time I had to BACK about a half mile through a blizzard and several inches of snow when a 2 lane highway I normally took home was blocked by a jack-knifed semi. That was fun - I had louvers on the back window...... had to have windows down to clear the outside mirrors so I could see to back up to the other road that I hoped would get us home. My wife watched one side while I watched the other to keep us out of the ditches you could hardly see by that time.
That was a rear wheel drive car....... with street tires in about 1980. We lived in the hills south of Prairie City, next to a wildlife preserve - roads were seldom even graded.
2" of snow it considered a "dusting" by many folks here. Yet others freak out and go into granny panic mode making it dangerous to be out. They hit the brakes going up hills, make sudden moves then lose control, downshift (stupid move), you name it. It's mostly the out-of-state imports that do that, new to our winters.

 

[Orange01z28]

Seriously? Chains are for packed snow on the verge of being ice, or for ice.
Only in deeper stuff would they do much.

I commuted through more than that with my AMX.
One time I had to BACK about a half mile through a blizzard and several inches of snow when a 2 lane highway I normally took home was blocked by a jack-knifed semi. That was fun - I had louvers on the back window...... had to have windows down to clear the outside mirrors so I could see to back up to the other road that I hoped would get us home. My wife watched one side while I watched the other to keep us out of the ditches you could hardly see by that time.
That was a rear wheel drive car....... with street tires in about 1980. We lived in the hills south of Prairie City, next to a wildlife preserve - roads were seldom even graded.
2" of snow it considered a "dusting" by many folks here. Yet others freak out and go into granny panic mode making it dangerous to be out. They hit the brakes going up hills, make sudden moves then lose control, downshift (stupid move), you name it. It's mostly the out-of-state imports that do that, new to our winters.

It's San Diego County. People lose their sh!t when it snows up there. There will be 10 mile gridlock into the next town just so people can see snow, people pulled over on the side of the road filling up the back of pickup trucks with snow, and any other chaos you can think of

I am a native Californian, but I grew up in Northern CA and spent a lot of time in Tahoe so I don't have to craziness when it comes to snow like some people. However, that 2" of snow sounds like what people drive like statewide when it rains in CA. I'm interested to see what happens in my first winter in AZ coming up

 

[ShadowsPapa]

It's San Diego County. People lose their sh!t when it snows up there. There will be 10 mile gridlock into the next town just so people can see snow, people pulled over on the side of the road filling up the back of pickup trucks with snow, and any other chaos you can think of

I am a native Californian, but I grew up in Northern CA and spent a lot of time in Tahoe so I don't have to craziness when it comes to snow like some people. However, that 2" of snow sounds like what people drive like statewide when it rains in CA. I'm interested to see what happens in my first winter in AZ coming up

That's funny - and not totally in a humerous way.
People do forget northern CA is about the same latitude as part of Iowa - so they do see some snow and winter. My SX4 came from a town in north central CA - started with an O, can't remember now. Anyway, the guy said yeah, we do see snow and no, it's not all heat and beaches.
I was in the Phoenix area about 2005 or so, it was the end of January, and Iowa was being hammered according to my wife back home in iowa - 0 degrees, massive snows.
I bunch of us car nuts were standing in a friend's driveway one evening just shooting the bull, having a few drinks before the party and as the sun started to drop over the hills and the tmep dropped into the 60s, one by one my friends went to their respective houses, got jackets and came back out. Around dark I suppose it hit maybe 55-60 and by then everyone had changed into a jacket and/or long pants.
I was standing there in shorts, a t-shirt, no jacket, loving it. Finally one of them pointed that out - obviously he's an Iowa boy - look at that LOL
The cool part was all of those guys had rust-free cars decades old.

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