Jeep: give us a new power plant!

[ShadowsPapa]

Cool that there's some others around the QC that may be there. I hope to take my Camaro down, I'll watch for a Gladiator on the track and see what she runs.

Used to live in Port Byron so I had not excuse not to go. Now I have to at least cross the river

I'll drive through Port Byron on the way to the track - I80 east over the river, then the first exit and go north a few minutes.

Saturday will be all AMC powered racing. It must be an AMC mill to run Saturday.
The show on Saturday is for AMC vehicles - but I think the show has a class for non-AMC powered vehicles as well - but the car must be AMC.

There will be Jeeps there - bet on it.

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[dcmdon]

Come on, you know you miss the smell of starting fluid at -10, the way that starter cable is just about to become transparent from the heat. Admit it, in some weird way you miss sticky secondaries that flood open after hanging up, making even the most mundane drive anywhere feel like outlaw drags.

The only reason my CJ had any scoot was it weighed very little, 2 seats, no top, missing a lot of body metal, heater was removed, no AC, no crash safety... engine was the heaviest part. It was loud, hot/cold, drafty and stank of gasoline and gear oil. No one ever wanted to ride in it and even the troopers stayed away, one told me one day he'd be afraid to look to close; run out of citation slips before running out of citations. We laughed!




High waisted mom jeans, you remember the ones; buttoned just about to the collar.

The 90's were a rough time as well, body suits under skirts and tops, combat boots laced to the knee, all the bracelets and hair bands, all covered in a trench coat and the guys looked just like the gals making night interception missions iffy.

Then BAM the new millennium. I was at a friends business when one of his employees girlfriends showed up to hang at lunch time. Jeans sitting so low the zipper was about an inch long. Crop top, no bra. I was like DAMMMNNNN. My generation really got screwed. ha.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I dunno where you guys grew up but man, the girls around here with the ultra-short shorts, and then the Daisy Duke look.......
Maybe the waist was higher, but the bottom end was also higher.
My first wife was a farm girl and I'm sort of surprised her parents let her out of the house some days. I guess she liked to stay cool in the summer heat.

 

[dfwxjer]

I live in Las Cruces. Drove it back from Rosenburg, TX last month and averaged right around 19 mpg on 35’s. Since I’ve had it I’ve averaged anywhere from 20 to 17 mpg depending on how hard I was flogging it and what I’m carrying. Getting ready to go on a multi state western trip at the end of the week. Fully expecting it to do better than that dog of a Tacoma I was driving before on 33’s.

I should have made an update... after I re-programmed for the 35s with the Tazer and the Jeep has gotten more broken in I can usually average 19mpg or so on the highway. I'm just under 11k miles now so it's getting better with time. Of course that's with me not hammering down to pass people, or driving above 75mph.

 

[dcmdon]

I should have made an update... after I re-programmed for the 35s with the Tazer and the Jeep has gotten more broken in I can usually average 19mpg or so on the highway. I'm just under 11k miles now so it's getting better with time. Of course that's with me not hammering down to pass people, or driving above 75mph.

I see you have a 63 Impala. I've got a 66 Impala Convertible. Purchase new by my grandfather.

 

[bl1ndman]

Honestly, take your pick. I had a couple of the injected 4.0 engines that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire too. They leak oil like seives, make no power, and drink fuel. Sure, they had a strong torque curve down low, but peak was still <230 lb/ft. They're heavy too. I consider the 4.0 engines to be great boat anchors.

The 304 V8... sigh... well, those wouldn't get out of their own way but to be fair the 70s "oil crisis" and resulting changes to emissions pretty much neutered ALL V8 engines, so the 304 had good company.

I just can't imagine anybody wanting to go back to those days. A 2021 Jeep with 3.6L P-star will run 0-60 under 7 seconds, get excellent fuel economy, and has a torque curve as flat as a Kansas highway. Excellent for every condition or use. And if 270ish lb/ft isn't enough for a guy, there is always the crank-twisting EcoDiesel.

I thoroughly enjoy watching Dennis Collins restore the old CJ-5, 7, and 8s. Pure joy to watch. But I wouldn't trade my JT for a CJ even if there was $20k sitting on the hood of the CJ.

I strongly disagree with the bit about the 3.5. When I had my JKU I found it to be a turd of a engine, at least in a jeep. It was my single biggest compliant about my JKU.

As for the starting fluid, never needed it to start my 77 F250, and I live in Canada. Held the pedal to the floor and stared to crank it over and with in 3 seconds she would start up everytime. As long as there was fuel in the carb that is.

 

[dfwxjer]

I see you have a 63 Impala. I've got a 66 Impala Convertible. Purchase new by my grandfather.

Very cool. I purchased mine from my dad who owned it since 1972. It needs quite a bit of deferred maintenance but it’s the car I took to prom, rode around in with my dad as a kid, etc.

 

[redriderjf87]

I'll drive through Port Byron on the way to the track - I80 east over the river, then the first exit and go north a few minutes.

Saturday will be all AMC powered racing. It must be an AMC mill to run Saturday.
The show on Saturday is for AMC vehicles - but I think the show has a class for non-AMC powered vehicles as well - but the car must be AMC.

There will be Jeeps there - bet on it.

Ah good to know, I forgot about the AMC day. Guess I won't be taking the car on the track that day haha.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Ah good to know, I forgot about the AMC day. Guess I won't be taking the car on the track that day haha.

You can still come by (but I just read there is a $12 fee for spectators - not sure about the friday evening test and tune ---------- that may be more open.

 

[Firestarter]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt and went with the most potent engine. My bad. 110hp and 195 ft lbs is even worse.

my 8 speed does an amazing job of keeping my rpm up when load deems it. And off road plus mode keeps the rpm up high. In fact, if I pump the gas it will stay in the lower gear for a while even while coasting. This is obvious a straw man argument of yours though and doesn’t change the fact that the 8 speed is far more capable of keeping the rpm higher, even if you must auto stick it, than the ratty old one previously mentioned.

He said the 4.2 which is the 258, not the 304. The 258 has better grunt or low RPM torque than a 304, IMO.

The JT transmission is nice but the programming does not keep the engine in the power-producing range. The opposite - it keeps shifting up and dropping RPM into the mid teens. I have to force it to stay in the mid-2,000 rpm area. I only WISH these stuck into the higher RPM and thus higher power band. Instead you have to romp it or shift manually to keep it there. Mine actually upshifts on hills, then has to downshift again after it fails to accelerate.

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