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Just saw a window sticker and a built 2023 Mojave in Punk’n on a gladiator FB page. So apparently there have been Punk’n gladiators built prior to the strike?! Interesting.
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Just saw a window sticker and a built 2023 Mojave in Punk’n on a gladiator FB page. So apparently there have been Punk’n gladiators built prior to the strike?! Interesting.
After I ordered I stopped constant scouring on CarGurus. I checked for haha's yesterday (skimming through all inventory) and happened to stumble across about (10) Punk'n on there to my surprise! That said, many didn't have actual photos, so... but there were a few legit ones! Here's one, even spec'd with the steel gray interior like I ordered! https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/punkn-gladiator-jt-club.8493/post-1195143
 

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I keep getting this screen with that one. Not sure what the problem is.

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Weird, I haven't had that problem with it ever. That said, you're not missing much, there isn't any additional info on it that I can tell. Just a different look.
 

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Weird, I haven't had that problem with it ever. That said, you're not missing much, there isn't any additional info on it that I can tell. Just a different look.
I wonder if its because it hasnt been assigned a VIN yet or maybe because its a 2024? idk either. I emailed the creator but no word back as of yet.
 

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Just saw a window sticker and a built 2023 Mojave in Punk’n on a gladiator FB page. So apparently there have been Punk’n gladiators built prior to the strike?! Interesting.
After I ordered I stopped constant scouring on CarGurus. I checked for haha's yesterday (skimming through all inventory) and happened to stumble across about (10) Punk'n on there to my surprise! That said, many didn't have actual photos, so... but there were a few legit ones! Here's one, even spec'd with the steel gray interior like I ordered! https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/punkn-gladiator-jt-club.8493/post-1195143
Per the color announcement from mid-Summer they noted Punk'n would be on dealer lots late September so makes perfect sense that some were out before the strike.
 

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Just got an email out of the blue from my dealer, tentative ship date of 11/2/23! This news surprised me just as much as the status change to "scheduled" last Friday! Makes me believe Stellantis and UAW are closer to a deal than the media has revealed. That or they have some other ace up their sleeve....

Guess there's hope!!
 

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Just got an email out of the blue from my dealer, tentative ship date of 11/2/23! This news surprised me just as much as the status change to "scheduled" last Friday! Makes me believe Stellantis and UAW are closer to a deal than the media has revealed. That or they have some other ace up their sleeve....

Guess there's hope!!
I hope that date works out for you, though I suspect that date was automated after you flipped to scheduled. My dealer had a date for me after mine when scheduled. That day is today lol. I’m pretty sure mine hasn’t even started being built. Much less ready to ship.
 

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I hope that date works out for you, though I suspect that date was automated after you flipped to scheduled. My dealer had a date for me after mine when scheduled. That day is today lol. I’m pretty sure mine hasn’t even started being built. Much less ready to ship.
I could care less about the date honestly (as long as I have it before next summer), this just gives me some real confidence that my order is actually going to be built. A week or so ago, I didn't really have warm and fuzzies...

I mean, why else would they schedule it and provide a ship date during an active strike if they had no intention of building it? (albeit, whenever that is) If they were considering canceling orders or something, I imagine they would have just let my order sit in confirmed status until they decided to take it out back and kill it.
 
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I hope that date works out for you, though I suspect that date was automated after you flipped to scheduled. My dealer had a date for me after mine when scheduled. That day is today lol. I’m pretty sure mine hasn’t even started being built. Much less ready to ship.
You got me thinking (which is dangerous lol) and so I was poking around to compare our timelines.

Looks like you ordered 8/26, flipped to scheduled 9/8/23 and were provided a 9/28 ship date.

I ordered 8/22, flipped to scheduled 9/22 and obviously was just provided a ship date of 11/2.

We both obviously ordered Punk’n, but I believe you ordered a Sport S Max Tow while I ordered a Mojave with a few boxes checked. I imagine there were some component availability issues that pushed back my scheduled date 2 weeks after yours despite ordering 4 days prior. Yours was obviously scheduled a week prior to the strike (which at the time was not certain to actually materialize), and they estimated a ship date of 9/28, 20 days after being scheduled. (which seemed to be a more than reasonable timeline at the time, prior to the strike, based on this, https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...-shipped-real-basic-build.72384/#post-1182530 where they demonstrated that they can go from “Scheduled” to “Built” in 7 days or “In Production” to “Built” in 4 days) They basically gave themselves a 2 week buffer on your build.

Mine obviously flipped to scheduled a week after the strike and they essentially estimate a ship date 41 days after being scheduled. I cant imagine building a Sport S Max Tow and building a Mojave varies much, certainly not 20 extra days. (though I did get a bed liner, not sure if you did which may account for some extra time). That said, obviously the ship date you were provided was clearly wrong, but its likely because it was provided before the strike actually materialized. It’d be interesting to see if or when they provide you a new estimated ship date, what it ends up being.

Long story short, to me it seems that on my order they’ve “baked” in an addition 3 weeks buffer (obviously due to the strike) to the 2 week buffer they were doing prior to the strike. (i.e they provided you an estimate of 20 days when they demonstrated for someone else 7 days).

So in my case, at this point they’re saying they’re going to have my truck built and ready to ship 35 days from today which gives them about 30 days of buffer under the assumption they can build my truck in a 4-5 day period. So as long as the strike is over by 10/27, that 11/2 date might not be that much of a pipe dream….thats my thought at least! : )

If you can’t tell, I have a tendency to overthink things, but there does seem to be some method to their madness to me and my manufacturing background. Hope this maybe brings you some hope too...
 

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You got me thinking (which is dangerous lol) and so I was poking around to compare our timelines.

Looks like you ordered 8/26, flipped to scheduled 9/8/23 and were provided a 9/28 ship date.

I ordered 8/22, flipped to scheduled 9/22 and obviously was just provided a ship date of 11/2.

We both obviously ordered Punk’n, but I believe you ordered a Sport S Max Tow while I ordered a Mojave with a few boxes checked. I imagine there were some component availability issues that pushed back my scheduled date 2 weeks after yours despite ordering 4 days prior. Yours was obviously scheduled a week prior to the strike (which at the time was not certain to actually materialize), and they estimated a ship date of 9/28, 20 days after being scheduled. (which seemed to be a more than reasonable timeline at the time, prior to the strike, based on this, https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...-shipped-real-basic-build.72384/#post-1182530 where they demonstrated that they can go from “Scheduled” to “Built” in 7 days or “In Production” to “Built” in 4 days) They basically gave themselves a 2 week buffer on your build.

Mine obviously flipped to scheduled a week after the strike and they essentially estimate a ship date 41 days after being scheduled. I cant imagine building a Sport S Max Tow and building a Mojave varies much, certainly not 20 extra days. (though I did get a bed liner, not sure if you did which may account for some extra time). That said, obviously the ship date you were provided was clearly wrong, but its likely because it was provided before the strike actually materialized. It’d be interesting to see if or when they provide you a new estimated ship date, what it ends up being.

Long story short, to me it seems that on my order they’ve “baked” in an addition 3 weeks buffer (obviously due to the strike) to the 2 week buffer they were doing prior to the strike. (i.e they provided you an estimate of 20 days when they demonstrated for someone else 7 days).

So in my case, at this point they’re saying they’re going to have my truck built and ready to ship 35 days from today which gives them about 30 days of buffer under the assumption they can build my truck in a 4-5 day period. So as long as the strike is over by 10/27, that 11/2 date might not be that much of a pipe dream….thats my thought at least! : )

If you can’t tell, I have a tendency to overthink things, but there does seem to be some method to their madness to me and my manufacturing background. Hope this maybe brings you some hope too...
I’m following your thinking, and it feels logical. I’ve got my fingers crossed for the both of us! I do wonder how many vehicles they’ve fallen behind on during the strike period and how much extra buffer time needs to be added in to catch up with those. Over on the JL forums there are people that have been waiting over 100 days for their ‘24s for no apparent reason. I’m hopeful they get ours built quickly but I am feeling slightly pessimistic about the situation. Thats for sure.
 

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I’m following your thinking, and it feels logical. I’ve got my fingers crossed for the both of us! I do wonder how many vehicles they’ve fallen behind on during the strike period and how much extra buffer time needs to be added in to catch up with those. Over on the JL forums there are people that have been waiting over 100 days for their ‘24s for no apparent reason. I’m hopeful they get ours built quickly but I am feeling slightly pessimistic about the situation. Thats for sure.
I know next to nothing about auto manufacturing or that Toledo facility, but I imagine the Wranglers and Gladiators probably operate independently for the most part (maybe overlapping in a few departments or processes). Based on the massive inventory sitting on lots, declining sales numbers and constant incentives on the Gladiators lately, there's no doubt that a "line for that ride" is forming with folks like us, but there is no way its wrapped around the block like it probably is for the Wrangler being the main attraction. By cutting off MY23 orders two weeks ago, they probably figure if the strike is over by mid to late October, they'll have enough time to clean up the backlog by year end the latest, then retool and flip to MY24's. Or if push came to shove, I'm sure it would be easy enough for them to implement some non-standard short term contingency plans to manufacture both MY23's and MY24's for a short period. The changes between the model years isn't that drastic (IMO)

If I was a betting man, I bet orders for MY23's were just trickling in (by their normal standards) leading up to the strike and MY24 launch. I'm sure the uncertainty of the potential of a strike along with the anticipation of the new model year and the potential changes associated it, was enough to keep demand soft (then they pulled the plug on MY23 orders anyways, right as the MY24 launched, so people couldn't knee jerk react to order a MY23 after learning that MY24 wasn't really bringing anything new or desirable, and also I'm sure they had a high level of confidence at that point on 9/13 that the strike was going to happen, so they didn't want to expose themselves to a surge of last minute MY23 orders.)
 

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I got word my Punkn Mojave ordered 8/4 should arrive to the dealer between tomm and next Friday. But then the tracker went from that date to TBD. Now that is the tracker, so take that with a grain of salt. When my Ram's date went to TBD, it was at the dealer already. According to my dealer and some forum help from a connection found when I ordered my Powerwagon, mine was in KZM shipped status in a rail yard in Toledo along with several others they had on order. So I THINK it eeked out the door prior to the strike.
 

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I got word my Punkn Mojave ordered 8/4 should arrive to the dealer between tomm and next Friday. But then the tracker went from that date to TBD. Now that is the tracker, so take that with a grain of salt. When my Ram's date went to TBD, it was at the dealer already. According to my dealer and some forum help from a connection found when I ordered my Powerwagon, mine was in KZM shipped status in a rail yard in Toledo along with several others they had on order. So I THINK it eeked out the door prior to the strike.
Nice!! What boxes did you check on your Mojave?
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