OK I got scammed....

[Pismo61]

I used to buy a lot on the Jeep forums and never got scammed.I don't now.To bad its come to this.

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[Bandit’s Lair]

I’d say we start our own verification if the forum doesn’t. If you see a sale and have dealt with the seller in the past give em a vote of confidence. Lets others know that it’s relatively safe and gives the sell thread a bump to the top. I’ve done 1 “purchase” and one “sale” on here and both went well.

I put em both in quotes because I only paid shipping for the purchase item and the sale was giving my blacked out trail rated badge to another forum member. Wasn’t going to use it myself and if it is still on the trail I’m satisfied.

 

[DickensCPA]

I don't understand PayPal at times. I always pay G&S and I always sell G&S but sometimes as soon as the guy pays it alerts me "You have money. What do you want to do with it?" It's like an immediate thing. Sometimes it makes me wait until the guy receives my package and verifies. No rhyme or reason as to the difference.

I had a nightmare with PayPal a couple years ago. I sold some expensive archery gear to a guy and he texted me right when he got it - "Love it! Exaactly as described" Things of that sort. I haven't deleted a text or email since 1996 so I still have those today.

A month later I see a big hit on my bank from PP. I investigate and that guy disputed the charges and PP took my money back. It was a little over $1200 and I go scorched earth on him on the website and in text.

He finally sees my posts and reaches out. Apparently what he'd done is because the amount was a little high for him he did the thing where he broke it out in payments thru PP. So the first pmt from PP hits his bank for like $200 and he didn't know what he'd done for $200. He was older and I don't think he understood PP. He fell all over himself apologizing and offered to send me my money F&F.

Instead we call PP together on a 3-way call. With me AND him on the phone and him explaining what he'd done PP wouldn't budge. We go thru this for a month and he says just let me F&F you the money and I say OK. Then PP wouldn't let him do that because it said he had an active complaint against me.

In the end I own a CPA firm and I just invoiced him for the money and he paid via credit card. Doing what I do for a living I deal with a LOT of banks across the country with over 4000 clients in 47 States. I never had my first client with bank fraud until we got debit cards with chips. The biggest thing I've noticed with banks and payment systems is they make it very easy for someone to steal from you but hamstring your life afterwards in the name of security.

 

[Hootbro]

I don't understand PayPal at times. I always pay G&S and I always sell G&S but sometimes as soon as the guy pays it alerts me "You have money. What do you want to do with it?" It's like an immediate thing. Sometimes it makes me wait until the guy receives my package and verifies. No rhyme or reason as to the difference.

I had a nightmare with PayPal a couple years ago. I sold some expensive archery gear to a guy and he texted me right when he got it - "Love it! Exaactly as described" Things of that sort. I haven't deleted a text or email since 1996 so I still have those today.

A month later I see a big hit on my bank from PP. I investigate and that guy disputed the charges and PP took my money back. It was a little over $1200 and I go scorched earth on him on the website and in text.

He finally sees my posts and reaches out. Apparently what he'd done is because the amount was a little high for him he did the thing where he broke it out in payments thru PP. So the first pmt from PP hits his bank for like $200 and he didn't know what he'd done for $200. He was older and I don't think he understood PP. He fell all over himself apologizing and offered to send me my money F&F.

Instead we call PP together on a 3-way call. With me AND him on the phone and him explaining what he'd done PP wouldn't budge. We go thru this for a month and he says just let me F&F you the money and I say OK. Then PP wouldn't let him do that because it said he had an active complaint against me.

In the end I own a CPA firm and I just invoiced him for the money and he paid via credit card. Doing what I do for a living I deal with a LOT of banks across the country with over 4000 clients in 47 States. I never had my first client with bank fraud until we got debit cards with chips. The biggest thing I've noticed with banks and payment systems is they make it very easy for someone to steal from you but hamstring your life afterwards in the name of security.

90% of that situation is the buyers fault and the remaining 10% is Paypal and being rigidly locked by process to do what they did.

I have my “old man” Paypal story also. Sold an item online that was mailed with tracking provided to buyer and showed delivery. After about 3 weeks from showing delivered, had a charge back from Paypal pending with the guying saying it was not delivered. I disputed it and eventually won because the guy was too inept and never reported to me the day of delivery that he had not received it. I am sure he had a mailbox pirate but that window of trying to do anything had closed.

 

[DickensCPA]

90% of that situation is the buyers fault and the remaining 10% is Paypal and being rigidly locked by process to do what they did.

I have my “old man” Paypal story also. Sold an item online that was mailed with tracking provided to buyer and showed delivery. After about 3 weeks from showing delivered, had a charge back from Paypal pending with the guying saying it was not delivered. I disputed it and eventually won because the guy was too inept and never reported to me the day of delivery that he had not received it. I am sure he had a mailbox pirate but that window of trying to do anything had closed.

I used to buy and sell a LOT on EBay, especially Harley parts. I had a 100% rating and a lot of transactions back and forth. I swore off ebay in 2010 and never logged in again over a PayPal issue.

I not only reload for every single caliber I shoot, I also mould my own projectiles. My Dad was a mechanical eng and I had an unlimited supply of lead. I also built rapport with many tire shops and dealers to let me have their used wheel weights. Plus my local range had about all the lead I could carry. I also had a client that restored sailboats and got all of his lead.

Well my Dad retired, wheel weights went to zinc, the range that was older than me closed and my client died. So I had to look at other sources. I see a guy on EBay that worked for a dealer and was getting his scuba certification and had melted lead into ingots to sell for fishing weights. He had like 200# and an awesome price. Then I noticed he was like less than 10 miles from my office. I reached out and said I'd like to do a buy now and just meet because shipping 200# of lead would be expensive. He was pumped to not have to ship that so we meet and I give him cash.

EBay would not let us give each other feedback or close the transaction because we didn't pay thru PP. We tried to explain we were local and shipping lead would be a problem. No dice. EBay gave us both a mini vacation ban. I've never logged into EBay again in 16 years.

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