Right To Repair (John Deere)

[tcabece]

Not sure who's been watching the right to repair battles? But John Deere just agreed to a $99Million (I know peanuts) settlement. ( John Deere settles long-running right-to-repair class-action lawsuit for $99 million )
I think for most of us "car guys" the part "John Deere has also agreed to provide the software required for diagnosis and repair of its products, and also routine maintenance. " This is important. Certainly during my Gladiator DIY 392 conversion this would have helped.

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[Freems]

Companies who manufacture and sell products and won’t let me, the owner work on them or buy replacement parts from them or their distributors, my message is simple…I’ll take their products outside and set fire to them and I’ll post that wiener roast on line for the corporate worlds viewing pleasure. JD leads the world in tractor revenue, every farmer I know is dumping ”green” and moving to a different color over this brilliant corporate decision. The $99M fine is a rounding error to them, but this changing color thing…will be the corporate greed that chokes them for years to come. JDs CEO received a total compensation of approximately $27.8 million to $27.93 million for the 2024 fiscal year. Shame on them for screwing the people who feed them.

 

[ChrisNLA]

I have a 2025 John Deere 1 series but they gonna have a hard time keeping me from diagnosing a mechanical engine I have a legit service manual for it, too.

But seriously though, never cared for their tactics but I like their small equipment. So here we are. I am of the mindset I should be able to work on / diagnose any vehicles or equipment generally speaking.

 

[SanTan38]

This is a very interesting thing for me. I understand the whole”right to repair thing”. But working in aviation, I see things just a bit different. Although the federal regulations are quite different, the repair data, software, is proprietary to the OEM. They developed the product, so why not be able to profit from it. Airbus helicopters always had tight control of their repair data and authorized maintenance facilities. That’s how they make money. Bell helicopters was just the opposite for the longest time. Anyone could access their repair data. That is why you see a lot of Belll aftermarket and STC products and not so much from Airbus.
After a while I can see releasing it. Like an expiring patent.
Still want it all for my JT……..soooooo. Yea….

 

[Freems]

This is a very interesting thing for me. I understand the whole”right to repair thing”. But working in aviation, I see things just a bit different. Although the federal regulations are quite different, the repair data, software, is proprietary to the OEM. They developed the product, so why not be able to profit from it. Airbus helicopters always had tight control of their repair data and authorized maintenance facilities. That’s how they make money. Bell helicopters was just the opposite for the longest time. Anyone could access their repair data. That is why you see a lot of Belll aftermarket and STC products and not so much from Airbus.
After a while I can see releasing it. Like an expiring patent.
Still want it all for my JT……..soooooo. Yea….

Software x open source = down stream revenue that fuels future software dev(your Bell example) that makes profit, collaboration and brings forward progress in new and dynamic integration for users I/O.

AI is about to teach some harsh lessons to those who live in softwares ancient past. (Your Airbus example)

 

[Hoist]

This is a very interesting thing for me. I understand the whole”right to repair thing”. But working in aviation, I see things just a bit different. Although the federal regulations are quite different, the repair data, software, is proprietary to the OEM. They developed the product, so why not be able to profit from it. Airbus helicopters always had tight control of their repair data and authorized maintenance facilities. That’s how they make money. Bell helicopters was just the opposite for the longest time. Anyone could access their repair data. That is why you see a lot of Belll aftermarket and STC products and not so much from Airbus.
After a while I can see releasing it. Like an expiring patent.
Still want it all for my JT……..soooooo. Yea….

Airbus manuals suck, MD, Bell and Sikorsky manuals are WAY better and more descriptive. But that’s got nothing to do with locking down my vehicle. Especially when they make an engine (3.6) that is 50-50 on reliability. I’d sooner drive a 70s Maverick.

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