The Overland is gone. Now what

[Bama_Swampfox]

I'm considering replacing my 2020 Overland and looking at the models that are now available, I'm thinking I should keep it. I don't go "real" off roading and I like a quiet, smooth ride (wind noise I'm used to). What 2025 model do you think is comparable?

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[NortonJTSS]

The Overland is really just a sport with leather seats, leather wrapped wheel and dash, upgraded screen, maybe some safety features, etc. It has the same suspension and drivetrain. So if you like the way it drives, I would look at the 2025 base sport model which now comes with power locks and windows, auto transmission included, and the 12 inch screen. Then anything else you really wanted could be added in a package. That would be my thinking.

 

[Sarge502]

I have a lot of insight on this topic....


So I am a extremely huge fan of the Overland trim having one myself. Unlike a lot of people, I specifically wanted the Overland and did not feel like I settled for it. And in all honesty, I feel like it is one of the best and valuable trims for the Gladiator. And it's not a coincidence that in 2024, it was the only trim to be discontinued.

Reason being in my opinion, and I've said this before in numerous debates, the Overland was probably the best trim for the value for "most" people. There's not one feature or package My Overland doesn't have as far as creature comforts. This may be personal opinion, but I feel like it's true in a lot of cases that a lot of people buy Rubicons for the name. And for me I couldn't justify the extra 10-12k (at the time I purchased in early 21' anyway) to have a Rubicon or Mojave with all the features my Overland has. I see often what I call "low tier" Rubicons, and although Rubicons, don't have LEDS from the factory, no leather, plastic non-painted fenders etc, etc. In my opinion I'd rather have my Overland before a "low budget" Rubicon without half my creature comforts I use everyday. Especially considering my off-road habits are moderate to minimal. Don't get me wrong lockers and automatic disconnects are and would be great which the Overland lacks. And I do get my Overland off road a fair amount (my IG, and YouTube can back that up). But I'm also no rock crawler and I don't think a lot of people give credit on the capabilities that even A stock jeep has. Let alone building one to your own off road habits. Which is what I've done and still currently doing with my Overland and mine has performed flawless in moderate conditions. But I know my limits and am fine with it.

If the margin at least when I purchase initially and probably even now, wasn't so steep to have a rubicon with all the packages and features my Overland has, than of course I would have got a Rubicon. But I couldn't justify that amount. If you've got it like that, than ok. But I don't. I've been very content with mine and have built to my liking. So the Overland is a gem and I feel that Jeep knew after the fact that it was the best Jeep right out the gates for so many people to have the best of both worlds without breaking the bank(and not that the overland is a cheap trim by any means) But it's not a coincidence it's the only trim to get discontinued. Jeep knew that value after the fact. Which I understand from a business standpoint, but it in turn has forced a lot of people moving forward to purchase Rubicon's and Rubicon X and getting and paying extra for features they most likely won't use or don't care about (particularly lockers and discos). When in all reality even for avid off-roaders, we jeepers are on road 80% of the time, most of us. And if you're not than, you wouldn't be interested in an Overland anyway.

But I've had this debate before and even spoke about it in one of my YouTube videos about how the Overland is arguably one of the best trims for the value and not even from a cheap standpoint considering it was based as a mid to high trim. But people often get so caught up in specifics and having to have a Rubicon or Mojave, yet they're rolling around with plastic fenders, dull headlights, cloth seats, small entertainment screens, etc. But hey they got that Rubicon/Mojave sticker on the side of the hood! lol. Unless you have the money to spend to get the higher tier Rubicon than in my opinion I'd take my Overland before it any day and is why I went with mine.

Keep your Overland if you can. Just my opinion. Since Jeep butchered it, unless you can afford a Rubicon X or Mojave without getting raped for all the features, I'd keep it.

 

[Sarge502]

The Overland is really just a sport with leather seats, leather wrapped wheel and dash, upgraded screen, maybe some safety features, etc. It has the same suspension and drivetrain. So if you like the way it drives, I would look at the 2025 base sport model which now comes with power locks and windows, auto transmission included, and the 12 inch screen. Then anything else you really wanted could be added in a package. That would be my thinking.

I second this suggestion only under the premise you were dead set with getting a new Jeep. Otherwise keep what you have. Not worth it if you like what you have unless you also have the money to spend for a Rubicon X.

 

[JmattNYC]

Overlander will be back in the 4xe model most likely.
For now the Sport S with the premium package is the overlander. You can get same tires and wheel package as well. I would advise to spring for the max tow package sport s premium

 

[Bama_Swampfox]

I have a lot of insight on this topic....


So I am a extremely huge fan of the Overland trim having one myself. Unlike a lot of people, I specifically wanted the Overland and did not feel like I settled for it. And in all honesty, I feel like it is one of the best and valuable trims for the Gladiator. And it's not a coincidence that in 2024, it was the only trim to be discontinued.

Reason being in my opinion, and I've said this before in numerous debates, the Overland was probably the best trim for the value for "most" people. There's not one feature or package My Overland doesn't have as far as creature comforts. This may be personal opinion, but I feel like it's true in a lot of cases that a lot of people buy Rubicons for the name. And for me I couldn't justify the extra 10-12k (at the time I purchased in early 21' anyway) to have a Rubicon or Mojave with all the features my Overland has. I see often what I call "low tier" Rubicons, and although Rubicons, don't have LEDS from the factory, no leather, plastic non-painted fenders etc, etc. In my opinion I'd rather have my Overland before a "low budget" Rubicon without half my creature comforts I use everyday. Especially considering my off-road habits are moderate to minimal. Don't get me wrong lockers and automatic disconnects are and would be great which the Overland lacks. And I do get my Overland off road a fair amount (my IG, and YouTube can back that up). But I'm also no rock crawler and I don't think a lot of people give credit on the capabilities that even A stock jeep has. Let alone building one to your own off road habits. Which is what I've done and still currently doing with my Overland and mine has performed flawless in moderate conditions. But I know my limits and am fine with it.

If the margin at least when I purchase initially and probably even now, wasn't so steep to have a rubicon with all the packages and features my Overland has, than of course I would have got a Rubicon. But I couldn't justify that amount. If you've got it like that, than ok. But I don't. I've been very content with mine and have built to my liking. So the Overland is a gem and I feel that Jeep knew after the fact that it was the best Jeep right out the gates for so many people to have the best of both worlds without breaking the bank(and not that the overland is a cheap trim by any means) But it's not a coincidence it's the only trim to get discontinued. Jeep knew that value after the fact. Which I understand from a business standpoint, but it in turn has forced a lot of people moving forward to purchase Rubicon's and Rubicon X and getting and paying extra for features they most likely won't use or don't care about (particularly lockers and discos). When in all reality even for avid off-roaders, we jeepers are on road 80% of the time, most of us. And if you're not than, you wouldn't be interested in an Overland anyway.

But I've had this debate before and even spoke about it in one of my YouTube videos about how the Overland is arguably one of the best trims for the value and not even from a cheap standpoint considering it was based as a mid to high trim. But people often get so caught up in specifics and having to have a Rubicon or Mojave, yet they're rolling around with plastic fenders, dull headlights, cloth seats, small entertainment screens, etc. But hey they got that Rubicon/Mojave in the side of the hood! lol. Unless you have the money to spend to get the higher tier Rubicon than in my opinion I'd take my Overland before it any day and is why I went with mine.

Keep your Overland if you can. Just my opinion. Since Jeep butchered it, unless you can afford a Rubicon X or Mojave without getting raped for all the features, I'd keep it.

This is great feedback. That’s the conclusion I’ve come to. Lockers and sway bar disconnects is not something I’d use often if ever. What happened to the “High Altitude”?

I guess I could be regarded as a “poser” but I want comfort, style and off-road capability when I need it. Thank you!

 

[Sarge502]

This is great feedback. That’s the conclusion I’ve come to. Lockers and sway bar disconnects is not something I’d use often if ever. What happened to the “High Altitude”?

I guess I could be regarded as a “poser” but I want comfort, style and off-road capability when I need it. Thank you!

Comfort is definitely a huge deal and I could care less what I'm regarded as, but clearly not posing by any means. So I'd say you'd be good. And as I said even from an off-road standpoint, even the mildest upgrades often make huge differences.

Also don't quote me on this but the High Altitude to my understanding is practically the same thing as the new night hawk version (for the most part) Although similar to the Overland I personally was never a fan of the H.A. mainly due to the painted bumpers which makes it look less Jeepy in my opinion. Anyways glad I could help. I've spent a lot of time on this same subject.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Comfort is definitely a huge deal and I could care less what I'm regarded as, but clearly not posing by any means. So I'd say you'd be good. And as I said even from an off-road standpoint, even the mildest upgrades often make huge differences.

Also don't quote me on this but the High Altitude to my understanding is practically the same thing as the new night hawk version (for the most part) Although similar to the Overland I personally was never a fan of the H.A. mainly due to the painted bumpers which makes it look less Jeepy in my opinion. Anyways glad I could help. I've spent a lot of time on this same subject.

High altitude was the top of the line with all the available options. Nighthawk is just a base sport with color matched fenders and roof.

 

[Sarge502]

High altitude was the top of the line with all the available options. Nighthawk is just a base sport with color matched fenders and roof.

thanks for that clarification I wasn't totally sure which were the exact differences. Not a fan of either personally though.

 

[JmattNYC]

Comfort is definitely a huge deal and I could care less what I'm regarded as, but clearly not posing by any means. So I'd say you'd be good. And as I said even from an off-road standpoint, even the mildest upgrades often make huge differences.

Also don't quote me on this but the High Altitude to my understanding is practically the same thing as the new night hawk version (for the most part) Although similar to the Overland I personally was never a fan of the H.A. mainly due to the painted bumpers which makes it look less Jeepy in my opinion. Anyways glad I could help. I've spent a lot of time on this same subject.

Colored bumpers make it look less jeep ? You see some of the bumpers people use lol High Altitude was the ultimate in luxury jeep gladiator. They also gave you the steel bumper group options in the MY 2022/23 with off road camara, dana 44 wide axels, front and rear sport shocks and fulltime 4wd auto & anti spin differentials amongst all the other options. Cement color seats where beautiful.

 

[Sarge502]

Colored bumpers make it look less jeep ? You see some of the bumpers people use lol High Altitude was the ultimate in luxury jeep gladiator. They also gave you the steel bumper group options in the MY 2022/23 with off road camara, dana 44 wide axels, front and rear sport shocks and fulltime 4wd auto & anti spin differentials amongst all the other options. Cement color seats where beautiful.

Personal opinion bro. But yes in my opinion that was the only flaw of the HA was the paint matched bumpers. And trust me, I agree about some of the aftermarket bumpers out there. They look tacky. That's exactly why I upgraded to the steel OEM front myself.

Butspeaking solely from a stock standpoint, whether steel or plastic bumpers, in my opinion they don't look good painted. Not that everyone takes their Jeep off-road, but it's a Jeep at the end of the day, not a Lincoln. Imagine a HA off-roading with painted bumpers. Appears you're from NYC though so, I get your response.

But as I've always said, there's a Jeep out there for everyone.

 

[JmattNYC]

Personal opinion bro. But yes in my opinion that was the only flaw of the HA was the paint matched bumpers. And trust me, I agree about some of the aftermarket bumpers out there. They look tacky. That's exactly why I upgraded to the steel OEM front myself.

Butspeaking solely from a stock standpoint, whether steel or plastic bumpers, in my opinion they don't look good painted. Not that everyone takes their Jeep off-road, but it's a Jeep at the end of the day, not a Lincoln. Imagine a HA off-roading with painted bumpers. Appears you're from NYC though so, I get your response.

But as I've always said, there's a Jeep out there for everyone.

Nah brother i hear you and i did not mean to sound like i was attacking your opinion. If it came across that way i am sorry. Funny because in 2021 i had the same opinions on that colored bumper however they have grown on me over the years. Now when i see them online i get what jeep was trying to do.

Anyway in 2021 i order a all hydro-blue diesel overland which i fell in love with after test driving a HA with the diesel. That tester was perfect and had everything but price pushing almost 70K before taxes lol

 

[Sarge502]

Nah brother i hear you and i did not mean to sound like i was attacking your opinion. If it came across that way i am sorry. Funny because in 2021 i had the same opinions on that colored bumper however they have grown on me over the years. Now when i see them online i get what jeep was trying to do.

Anyway in 2021 i order a all hydro-blue diesel overland which i fell in love with after test driving a HA with the diesel. That tester was perfect and had everything but price pushing almost 70K before taxes lol

Respect!

 

[Mark JT]

My 2024 Sport S was heavily optioned, with most of the Overland perks. My leather seats even say “Overland”!

 

[StevieY1]

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