Value Train repair kit?

[Steel24]

Which valve train repair kit should I be buying for my 2020 Gladiator Rubicon.
I found:
5184332AA
5184296AH
$237.06

amazon has the same kit for $117 but in the description it says it’s not for the VVT (variable valve train).

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[Steel24]

Called the parts dealer and they gave me a different set of part numbers.
5047896AD intake
68245463AA Exhaust
He said they don’t make a kit and he agreed that the price is out of this world at roughly $1200.
anyone have better luck finding a kit online?

 

[Gren71]

@AllMoparParts.com benny! Another one for ya

 

[AllMoparParts.com]

Which valve train repair kit should I be buying for my 2020 Gladiator Rubicon.
I found:
5184332AA
5184296AH
$237.06

amazon has the same kit for $117 but in the description it says it’s not for the VVT (variable valve train).

Hi Bryan,

For a 2020 JT 3.6 the Exhaust lifters are part # 5047979AA and the Intake lifters are part # 5047883AC. You would need 12 of each for a full repair.

These do not appear to be a common repair. Are you sure you need new lifters?

- Benny

 

[Steel24]

Benny,
Im looking for the rockers for intake and exhaust.
I was given part numbers:
5047896AD intake
68245463AA exhaust

 

[AllMoparParts.com]

Benny,
Im looking for the rockers for intake and exhaust.
I was given part numbers:
5047896AD intake
68245463AA exhaust

Hi Bryan,
Your part numbers are correct for the rockers, Note the Exhaust rocker includes the lifter as well. Here are links to them

https://parts.allmoparparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-valve-rocker-arm-5047896ad
https://parts.allmoparparts.com/oem...-lash-adjuster-rocker-arm-assembly-68245463aa

Due to the strike these will take at Least 30 days to get depending on how that goes. I also found a note/bulletin on these that you should read below

Tech Tip Description: Case 1.- Before replacing the intake or exhaust rocker arms due to an abnormal ticking noise, please check that the INTAKE Hydraulic Lash Adjusters are not "collapsed". If a collapsed INTAKE HLA is found, replace all INTAKE HLAs on the suspect cylinder head (no need to replace rocker arms). The noise can occur at low or high RPMs, and at low or high temperatures. There are no Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC)s present.

Case 2.- If the INTAKE camshaft or INTAKE rocker arm has excessive wear on the high lift profile (Rocker arm: slider, Camshaft: central lobe), replace the intake camshaft (1) in that cylinder head and all intake rocker arms (6).


Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks,
-Benny

 

[Uparms]

OP, @Steel24, How many miles?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Which valve train repair kit should I be buying for my 2020 Gladiator Rubicon.
I found:
5184332AA
5184296AH
$237.06

amazon has the same kit for $117 but in the description it says it’s not for the VVT (variable valve train).

Don't even think of buying a "kit" on Amazon or eBay unless you can confirm all parts are actual original OEM MOPAR parts and every single part is the correct part number - CURRENT part number, not one from 3 years ago.
It is correct that there's no kit from MOPAR - shops replace what is needed and sometimes all you need is some of the parts, or the kit doesn't include stuff you do need.
I'm not at all a fan of "kits" from online sources - unless a dealer or someone like Benny puts something together like he did for passive entry. But that's not going to happen for valve trains - too many variables, things change, and you don't know what you really need until you get into it.
Take it apart and evaluate, then order the parts you need. You don't know what you need until you look.
Don't mix and match new and used followers and cams.
You can freely replace lash adjusters and put new ones in under used followers with a used cam - but again, make sure that's what the problem really is, first. For a 2020, it's likely cam and followers, but anything is possible.
Any kit under $300 is a joke, IMO.

 

[Steel24]

OP, @Steel24, How many miles?

66,000 at time of ticking. Two dealerships told me it’s a low end noise and the motor needs replacing. $11,200
An independent mechanic thinks it’s valve train %100.

 

[Steel24]

Hi Bryan,
Your part numbers are correct for the rockers, Note the Exhaust rocker includes the lifter as well. Here are links to them

https://parts.allmoparparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-valve-rocker-arm-5047896ad
https://parts.allmoparparts.com/oem...-lash-adjuster-rocker-arm-assembly-68245463aa

Due to the strike these will take at Least 30 days to get depending on how that goes. I also found a note/bulletin on these that you should read below

Tech Tip Description: Case 1.- Before replacing the intake or exhaust rocker arms due to an abnormal ticking noise, please check that the INTAKE Hydraulic Lash Adjusters are not "collapsed". If a collapsed INTAKE HLA is found, replace all INTAKE HLAs on the suspect cylinder head (no need to replace rocker arms). The noise can occur at low or high RPMs, and at low or high temperatures. There are no Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC)s present.

Case 2.- If the INTAKE camshaft or INTAKE rocker arm has excessive wear on the high lift profile (Rocker arm: slider, Camshaft: central lobe), replace the intake camshaft (1) in that cylinder head and all intake rocker arms (6).


Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks,
-Benny

What’s your cost for those rockers?

 

[Steel24]

Well this morning I decided to open up the passenger side valve cover which is the side I thought was making all the noise. I found a worn down intake rocker and a bad lobe on the camshaft.
hopefully this is the only cause for my “ticking”.
I’m going to replace all the intake rockers and lashers (push rods), camshaft.
Everything on the exhaust side looked great.
I watched a video about how to remove the camshafts without pulling the timing chain cover. I really hope that part goes smooth.

 

[AllMoparParts.com]

What’s your cost for those rockers?

Hi Bryan,
Parts are as listed but I sent you a code you can use. Reply back if you need any additional parts or info.

Thanks,
- Benny

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Well this morning I decided to open up the passenger side valve cover which is the side I thought was making all the noise. I found a worn down intake rocker and a bad lobe on the camshaft.
hopefully this is the only cause for my “ticking”.
I’m going to replace all the intake rockers and lashers (push rods), camshaft.
Everything on the exhaust side looked great.
I watched a video about how to remove the camshafts without pulling the timing chain cover. I really hope that part goes smooth.

That's the parts I'd replace - lash adjusters, followers (rockers) and cam.
The exhaust side is rarely ever a problem.
On the 2020s it seems to normally be the right or passenger side (US vehicles)

If I recall correctly, ideally you need to force a CCDIFF relearn any time valve train components like cams, chains, sprockets, and so on, are replaced. Charles can correct me if that's incorrect for a cam replacement.

 

[jeepers29]

Well this morning I decided to open up the passenger side valve cover which is the side I thought was making all the noise. I found a worn down intake rocker and a bad lobe on the camshaft.
hopefully this is the only cause for my “ticking”.
I’m going to replace all the intake rockers and lashers (push rods), camshaft.
Everything on the exhaust side looked great.
I watched a video about how to remove the camshafts without pulling the timing chain cover. I really hope that part goes smooth.

Make sure you have the plastic wedge tool off amazon. Not too bad a job, just time consuming.

 

[TheRealStreetcommander]

Interesting. This occasional big-lobe failure remains curios. Please post photos of the damage. It sounds like you are handy if you're going to repair it yourself. If you feel like providing additional data, I'd be interested in knowing:

How much drive-time does your engine spend above 2800 and 3000rpm?
Is your Jeep stock tire'd and stock weight?
What has been your oil change interval?
Any external reason you believe the lobe interface may have been subjected to a lack of lubrication?
Do you see any signs of oil breakdown, like sludge or staining?

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