Woodworking suggestions needed

[WILDHOBO]

I have two flip carts, one with my planer and spindle sander, and one for my miter saw. They are a great use of space.
10’x10’ is pretty small. How high is the ceiling? Any chance of using a pulley system for storage up high? My current house only has 8’ ceilings so I have no high storage, but we are moving to a house with 10’ ceiling soon so I may be able to utilize some of it.

I’d love to see pictures of the flip carts. I built an extension off of my table saw years ago in order to have a routing table as well. That combo gets nested over the welding table usually, or over the metal cutting bandsaw. The drill press just takes up space, but I love it so much that I don’t care. I’d love one of those combo grinder/sanding wheel/belt tools. That would make a monster difference for projects. As much as I’d love a wood bandsaw, I just don’t know where it would go. I end up doing weird cutouts by hand with an oscillating tool. The miter saw gets a ton of use.

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[WILDHOBO]

Yeah, my tool collection got a bit out of control. But it keeps me out of trouble and allows me to make cool stuff for the house.

That is a good looking chair. IPE has gone up in price so much since Covid. my wife wants new deck furniture, so I am going to have to bite the bullet before next spring.

Even in 2015 when I made it, it was over $800 in wood alone. That doesn’t count the stainless color matched finish screws. None of the prices were equal so I had to do like a hundred 1/16” rip cuts on both sides of each plank to get the same size with no milling bevel. I was coughing up Ipe for a month. The number of 1/8” and 5/32” pilot bits I broke in that wood was in the area of a dozen. but it’s still indestructible. It’s now in Colorado outside near the fire pit. But covered when not in use. It’s so dry here that I oiled it over the summer, and it’s already due again.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Yeah, my tool collection got a bit out of control. But it keeps me out of trouble and allows me to make cool stuff for the house.

That is a good looking chair. IPE has gone up in price so much since Covid. my wife wants new deck furniture, so I am going to have to bite the bullet before next spring.

I wouldn’t mind having a conversation one day. You’ve got skills, and I bet I could learn a ton from you.

 

[HankB]

Is that teak?

The grate tables are teak. The solid tables were mahogany and walnut, and mahogany and holly. All of the tables were solid wood, no veneers. The grates were all half lap cut joints and tenoned into mortises on the frame. I duplicated the construction technique from wooden sailing ships. I actually copied the design from a display of the deck grates at the USS Constitution museum in Boston. Those were of course larger and thicker and made with oak as I recall.

 

[HankB]

I still haven't figured out fully how to process these logs. I live in a historic logging and mining town, the primary industry is logging and there are tons of small time sawmill owners. So far, nobody is interested in milling these up. It's a strange demographic where most the loggers here always complain about not enough money, not enough work, but they also dont accept work that is thrown their way - not just these logs either this goes for large jobs. It's a really weird situation.

I am probably going to end up having to make a jig and try to process the rest of them on my table saw after ripping them in half with my smaller chainsaw - which sucks since that is gong to waste a lot of it, but it seems to be the only option so far. But I do need to get them milled so I can dry them and clean them up since Im' trying to start a small spare time business and would love to incorporate these into a few things.

I ran into the same thing a few years ago. Our home is on a property that at one time was a cherry orchard and we have a number of now very large and semi wild cherry trees. When we bought the property we had a number cut down to clear things out. I wanted to get them rough sawn into blanks and none of the specialty saw millers were interested. It turns out the blades of those saws are very expensive and unless the job pays enough to make money and buy a blade they aren’t really interested. Where our property is basically farm land that has reforested the risk of the odd spike makes blade loss pretty common.

 

[chorky]

I ran into the same thing a few years ago. Our home is on a property that at one time was a cherry orchard and we have a number of now very large and semi wild cherry trees. When we bought the property we had a number cut down to clear things out. I wanted to get them rough sawn into blanks and none of the specialty saw millers were interested. It turns out the blades of those saws are very expensive and unless the job pays enough to make money and buy a blade they aren’t really interested. Where our property is basically farm land that has reforested the risk of the odd spike makes blade loss pretty common.

thats interesting. Most of the mills here are just small portable ones on sleds. Our main mill, IFG, shutdown last year for some odd reasons. The only speciality mills I know of are a good few hundred miles away

 

[WILDHOBO]

thats interesting. Most of the mills here are just small portable ones on sleds. Our main mill, IFG, shutdown last year for some odd reasons. The only speciality mills I know of are a good few hundred miles away

Alaskan sawmill with a ripping chain for the win. Kind of fun.

 

[Mtpisgah]

Even in 2015 when I made it, it was over $800 in wood alone. That doesn’t count the stainless color matched finish screws. None of the prices were equal so I had to do like a hundred 1/16” rip cuts on both sides of each plank to get the same size with no milling bevel. I was coughing up Ipe for a month. The number of 1/8” and 5/32” pilot bits I broke in that wood was in the area of a dozen. but it’s still indestructible. It’s now in Colorado outside near the fire pit. But covered when not in use. It’s so dry here that I oiled it over the summer, and it’s already due again.

I looks great and will last.
I am making a table with lignum vitae which is similarly hard.

 

[Mtpisgah]

The grate tables are teak. The solid tables were mahogany and walnut, and mahogany and holly. All of the tables were solid wood, no veneers. The grates were all half lap cut joints and tenoned into mortises on the frame. I duplicated the construction technique from wooden sailing ships. I actually copied the design from a display of the deck grates at the USS Constitution museum in Boston. Those were of course larger and thicker and made with oak as I recall.

They are beautiful.

 

[Mtpisgah]

I’d love to see pictures of the flip carts. I built an extension off of my table saw years ago in order to have a routing table as well. That combo gets nested over the welding table usually, or over the metal cutting bandsaw. The drill press just takes up space, but I love it so much that I don’t care. I’d love one of those combo grinder/sanding wheel/belt tools. That would make a monster difference for projects. As much as I’d love a wood bandsaw, I just don’t know where it would go. I end up doing weird cutouts by hand with an oscillating tool. The miter saw gets a ton of use.

I bought the plans online. They are very convenient for saving space. I had a scroll saw mounted under the miter saw until I bought another dust extractor. I never used the scroll saw anyways.

 

[chorky]

Alaskan sawmill with a ripping chain for the win. Kind of fun.

I have been thinking about it. I think sthil makes a ripping chain for my 362. Those boards I just cut with a flat 1x3 as a guide, using my battery powered 261 (tree saw) and it worked ok. A ripping chain would make work faster though.

The only reason I'm hesitant is it probably would be the only time I would use it. It would make more sense to get an actual mill and make my own dimensional lumber. We are allowed to cut up to 6' lengths of logs for firewood. Nothing longer as then it could be sold. Laws and crap. But 6' lengths is plenty long to rebuild my house and porch and shed, etc.... If I were to get into that instead of buying lumber it would probably make more sense to get a small mill.

 

[chorky]

I bought the plans online. They are very convenient for saving space. I had a scroll saw mounted under the miter saw until I bought another dust extractor. I never used the scroll saw anyways.

That's pretty sweet.

Here is my idea. It's 6' long, 28" wide. So I can use the winch to pull it out of the basement as it will fit through the door, if I move it to a shop some day. The yellow blocks are mockup's as a table saw and miter saw placeholder. The miter saw is held in place by some slide locks and sits on a polished brass 2" tube so it fully rotates. The top edge will be a butcher table so it should be thick enough for some dogholes and track extensions for the table saw. The left side of the table (if your looking at the table saw) will have a 2 or 3 foot fold up butcher block table extension for ripping larger sheets of plywood or longer pieces of wood stock. Then a second table will be the same dimensions to hold a plainer that will rotate like the miter saw, and a router. I think I'm just going to make a jig that will effectively turn the table saw into a jointer.

Then I will have to make another table that can fold up agains one of the walls to hold a CNC machine. I'm planning on starting a small, in my spare time, business for wood products and photos so I can take those proceeds and donate to a few charities and groups that do good work to help the less fortunate.

Oh and I plan to have the whole table held together by old school methods - probably dowels to make it easier, so no screws or nails, just wood and glue.

 

[WILDHOBO]

I bought the plans online. They are very convenient for saving space. I had a scroll saw mounted under the miter saw until I bought another dust extractor. I never used the scroll saw anyways.

Cool. So the top plywood sandwich just pops out and flips? Genius. I’ll build one for my drill press and a bandsaw. It’ll be 13’ high. I’ll need a ladder to use the top tool. Totally reasonable.

 

[WILDHOBO]

I have been thinking about it. I think sthil makes a ripping chain for my 362. Those boards I just cut with a flat 1x3 as a guide, using my battery powered 261 (tree saw) and it worked ok. A ripping chain would make work faster though.

The only reason I'm hesitant is it probably would be the only time I would use it. It would make more sense to get an actual mill and make my own dimensional lumber. We are allowed to cut up to 6' lengths of logs for firewood. Nothing longer as then it could be sold. Laws and crap. But 6' lengths is plenty long to rebuild my house and porch and shed, etc.... If I were to get into that instead of buying lumber it would probably make more sense to get a small mill.

That’d be amazing. It’s strange that you can’t just prove to them that you’re using 8’ lengths for personal use. Dumb.

 

[chorky]

That’d be amazing. It’s strange that you can’t just prove to them that you’re using 8’ lengths for personal use. Dumb.

yeah it sure is. And I work there too! If it wasn't such a big deal I would tell you a story of something that happened here a couple years ago that was even stupider - if thats a word.

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