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so i did all the math, and running all my gear to keep the wifey comfy offroad. I'm running 530lbs in the bed alone. I'm also doing this on stock Mojave suspension so its sags. I recently mounted 37s and when i run solo weight bout 200ish pounds, the truck looks fine as it levels out with no rake. I plan on getting the Daystar 3/4 in spacer lift all the way around and some mopar 2in lift LCAs cus your boy like caster. however this will still have sag in the rear when i run "wifey" weight. I had 2in lift +600lbs springs for the rear but they ride like ass unless the truck is fully loaded. which it isn't. so i got a few idea but would love to hear more.

1. sell off the RTT and steel bed rack and buy aluminium rack and Inspired Overland carbon fiber hardshell. saves me about 100 lbs.

2. get air bags, but would that make handling worse despite leveling the truck back out offroad? the front being soft and the ass to hard? if that makes sense.

3. buy Mojave X springs when they come out along with with the Daystar spacer kit?

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I added the 3/4 daystar spacers to the rear only. Mild rake empty but level loaded. I tried airbags on my old JK but they wouldn’t hold air all day off-roading. Heavier springs or a little rake is gonna be the trade off. I’m thinking about adding the same spacers to the front so I can add a bumper and winch. That should put me back to where I’m at now.
i already got a bumper and winch dragging the front down. it'll still have rake with spacers front and rear on my application.
 

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Mojave springs are too soft for a load. They are designed that way for high speed in sand and whoops.

You're going to need to put HD springs in the back. Yes it rides like a log wagon when empty.
Unfortunately there is no middle ground.

Adjustable shocks will help with the weight on the soft springs, but not as much as you want.

OR, you can step up to coil over shocks and you have a ton of adjustability between changing out the springs and adjusting the shock.
 
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Mojave springs are too soft for a load. They are designed that way for high speed in sand and whoops.

You're going to need to put HD springs in the back. Yes it rides like a log wagon when empty.
Unfortunately there is no middle ground.

Adjustable shocks will help with the weight on the soft springs, but not as much as you want.

OR, you can step up to coil over shocks and you have a ton of adjustability between changing out the springs and adjusting the shock.
it'll get a full overhaul when i hemi swap it. for now i just need a bandaid idea.
 

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it'll get a full overhaul when i hemi swap it. for now i just need a bandaid idea.
IMHO, the band-aid idea would be run with the +600 springs you already have until you do whatever else you plan to do with your Hemi swap. Why spend a bunch of other money on a different rack and RTT (unless you really want them independent of the spring issue) if you are already planning something else. Put the aluminum rack and new RTT money into your Hemi swap fund and get those tires dirty.
 

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IMHO, the band-aid idea would be run with the +600 springs you already have until you do whatever else you plan to do with your Hemi swap. Why spend a bunch of other money on a different rack and RTT (unless you really want them independent of the spring issue) if you are already planning something else. Put the aluminum rack and new RTT money into your Hemi swap fund and get those tires dirty.
i think i'd be ok with the =200 springs if they weren't 2in lift as well. know of any HD stock height springs?
 

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i think i'd be ok with the =200 springs if they weren't 2in lift as well. know of any HD stock height springs?
So here's what is your best bet. Contact Deaver Springs
https://deaverspring.com/

There are plenty of other companies out there that can make custom springs, probably even close to you. I only call out Deaver because that's who made mine.

When I was building my Gladiator, I worked with the shop installing my lift and with Deaver Springs to make custom springs for the weight I was planning on carrying. I'm not knocking Clayton, AEV or anyone else who sells lifts for Gladiators but the bottom line is that they are only going to typically make a standard duty and a heavy duty application. Custom springs are the way to go and won't cost you much more than buying a pre-made spring that won't meet your need.
 
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So here's what is your best bet. Contact Deaver Springs
https://deaverspring.com/

There are plenty of other companies out there that can make custom springs, probably even close to you. I only call out Deaver because that's who made mine.

When I was building my Gladiator, I worked with the shop installing my lift and with Deaver Springs to make custom springs for the weight I was planning on carrying. I'm not knocking Clayton, AEV or anyone else who sells lifts for Gladiators but the bottom line is that they are only going to typically make a standard duty and a heavy duty application. Custom springs are the way to go and won't cost you much more than buying a pre-made spring that won't meet your need.
thanks for idea. i'll look into it
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