Chaos Theory
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- 2023 Jeep Gladiator Mojave
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Dear Abby, I've had my 23 Mojave for exactly a year. I've decided I really don't like the manual transmission in this Jeep, especially paired with the 3.6l engine. I've had 5 other stick shift vehicles (including 4WD) over my life and had no issues with them, so figured I'd get used to it. Despite regearing, I continue to fight the jankiness of the MT in this Gladiator, so much so that I had been considered getting a cheap little econo-box commuter vehicle to pair with the Jeep. Only recently did I rationalize what was happening, subconsciously-- I wanted to buy a 2nd car so that I could drive my 1st car less. That's a huge red flag. You should want to drive your Jeep, whenever and wherever.
I also went into the dealership yesterday to see what/if the clutch recall makes sense right now, or if I should wait. I was told I'd be charged for removing/reinstalling whatever mods interfere with the recall, which may get expensive due to my Artec full belly skid. What bothers me is that they didn't have a fix for almost 8 months, so it's not like I refused to get the recall work done before I added mods. I also don't believe the recall will do a thing to the performance of the clutch, and I've heard too many mixed reviews on aftermarket clutches to dump another $3k into that mod.
I love pretty much everything else about the Mojave. Rides great, awesome suspension, comfortable seats, decent styling. I bought a year ago, unfortunately just before the massive discounts. With the $20k+ in mods over the last year, I'm in for about $80k with 1 year now of massive depreciation. It's paid off, thanks to my trade-in and paid the difference in cash, so no loan to worry about.
The same dealership that wants to charge me to do their recall also happens to have a 2023 diesel Willys. I made the mistake of test driving it, and found out just how miserable my Mojave driving experience is compared to that. It was responsive, quick, no shifting, didn't throw any codes yet... It's also heavily discounted but lacks some major features, which explains why it's still sitting on the lot. Still, not many diesels left.
For shits and giggles I had them work up a trade value appraisal of my Mojave. Not really happy with how that turned out, but wasn't surprised. First-year depreciation is worst-case scenario. I'm prepared to take a money hit, but we're too far off right now. But if that Willys sits another month, they may reconsider.
Even if it were even swap (my loaded Mojave for near bare-bones Willy's) I'd have to spend another $25k to get it near what I have now (suspension, lift, tires, armor, etc).
I'm going to get a number of answers here, but on a scale of 1-10, what level of crazy would that be? Is Willy's trim worth dumping that kind of money or should I instead wait for the Gladiator 4XE next year, which appeals to me almost as much as the diesel (but will also cost a fortune).
I also went into the dealership yesterday to see what/if the clutch recall makes sense right now, or if I should wait. I was told I'd be charged for removing/reinstalling whatever mods interfere with the recall, which may get expensive due to my Artec full belly skid. What bothers me is that they didn't have a fix for almost 8 months, so it's not like I refused to get the recall work done before I added mods. I also don't believe the recall will do a thing to the performance of the clutch, and I've heard too many mixed reviews on aftermarket clutches to dump another $3k into that mod.
I love pretty much everything else about the Mojave. Rides great, awesome suspension, comfortable seats, decent styling. I bought a year ago, unfortunately just before the massive discounts. With the $20k+ in mods over the last year, I'm in for about $80k with 1 year now of massive depreciation. It's paid off, thanks to my trade-in and paid the difference in cash, so no loan to worry about.
The same dealership that wants to charge me to do their recall also happens to have a 2023 diesel Willys. I made the mistake of test driving it, and found out just how miserable my Mojave driving experience is compared to that. It was responsive, quick, no shifting, didn't throw any codes yet... It's also heavily discounted but lacks some major features, which explains why it's still sitting on the lot. Still, not many diesels left.
For shits and giggles I had them work up a trade value appraisal of my Mojave. Not really happy with how that turned out, but wasn't surprised. First-year depreciation is worst-case scenario. I'm prepared to take a money hit, but we're too far off right now. But if that Willys sits another month, they may reconsider.
Even if it were even swap (my loaded Mojave for near bare-bones Willy's) I'd have to spend another $25k to get it near what I have now (suspension, lift, tires, armor, etc).
I'm going to get a number of answers here, but on a scale of 1-10, what level of crazy would that be? Is Willy's trim worth dumping that kind of money or should I instead wait for the Gladiator 4XE next year, which appeals to me almost as much as the diesel (but will also cost a fortune).
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) It feels like a lot of power trapped in there but not allowing to use it.. caged animal.. something along those sorts ? where as 3.6 MT is free but there is no power. 5-6 useless unless you are in perfectly flat roads and you have to rev it high to get any power- it takes some getting used to. Altogether, it's an okay driving experience.. every time I feel like I don't like driving it, I take it off-road and I remember I bought it in the first place.
