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News Story by Christina Hall --Detroit Free Press

U.S. Customs and Border Protection seized more than 211,000 counterfeit automotive parts in fiscal 2024, nearly doubling the number of counterfeit parts seized the previous year.

Every part of your vehicle could be counterfeited.
A counterfeit part could cause performance issues or, worse, even be fatal.
"Counterfeit parts are more than just a failure in quality: They are a direct risk to safety, where shortcuts in integrity can threaten lives," said Bob Stewart, president of the Automotive Anti-Counterfeiting Council, an alliance of nearly a dozen North American vehicle manufacturers.

The anti-counterfeiting council's website — which contains a counterfeit parts infographic and video showing tests run on counterfeit and genuine parts — indicates that counterfeit auto parts entering the U.S. have an estimated value of more than $3 billion a year, according to findings from the U.S. Department of Commerce and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

In fiscal year 2023, the ICE release added, federal authorities seized about 20,000 shipments containing goods that violated intellectual property rights, equating to nearly 23 million counterfeit items — more than $2.75 billion worth had they been genuine parts. Out of those shipments, almost 100,000 items were counterfeit automotive goods with a manufacturer's suggested retail price of more than $10 million.
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automotive and bike parts as of my personal experience. try and find a shimano chain on amazon that is legit. Ive seen some crazy lock actuators for lexus/toyota products come through. seen some funky oil control valves too.

They are called 'grey parts' by lexus. comes in a lexus box, lexus part, but no pdc label and you cant track it to a selling dealer. how do you warranty that?

this is not a new problem, not sure why its in light now (not degrading your post OP). grey parts been around for years and lexus/toyota been battling for years.

secondly, a knock off is not always less than......ive also never seen a safety issue from experience, it just comes down to costing the dealer more to replace a fake part. I know this is the simplest form of thinking, but everything is always tracked back to money over public safety
 
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automotive and bike parts as of my personal experience. try and find a shimano chain on amazon that is legit. Ive seen some crazy lock actuators for lexus/toyota products come through. seen some funky oil control valves too.

They are called 'grey parts' by lexus. comes in a lexus box, lexus part, but no pdc label and you cant track it to a selling dealer. how do you warranty that?

this is not a new problem, not sure why its in light now (not degrading your post OP). grey parts been around for years and lexus/toyota been battling for years.

secondly, a knock off is not always less than......ive also never seen a safety issue from experience, it just comes down to costing the dealer more to replace a fake part. I know this is the simplest form of thinking, but everything is always tracked back to money over public safety
Correct "GREY" have been around for decades.. Grey are the mfg parts for a country outside the USA and are not tested for US standards nor approved by the mfg for the US. This recent news story did mention counterfeit air bags and showed some AC Delco spark plugs.
 

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The one forum I'm on. It's been a issue with spark plugs. Boxed wrong, no threads, missing electrodes. Falling apart during operation. Thermostats either stuck open or closed in the box. There was a whole list of things that someone put together.
 

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Ebay are flooded with counterfeit Mopar parts. It forced sellers with genuine parts selling at counterfeit price. I snatched some genuine diesel fuel filters at $10 each lol.
 

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Correct "GREY" have been around for decades.. Grey are the mfg parts for a country outside the USA and are not tested for US standards nor approved by the mfg for the US. This recent news story did mention counterfeit air bags and showed some AC Delco spark plugs.


correction: ive seen a seat belt. kudos, 100% a safety issue in that case.
 

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Ebay are flooded with counterfeit Mopar parts. It forced sellers with genuine parts selling at counterfeit price. I snatched some genuine diesel fuel filters at $10 each lol.
Show me the fuel filters
 

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They are called 'grey parts' by lexus. comes in a lexus box, lexus part, but no pdc label and you cant track it to a selling dealer. how do you warranty that?

this is not a new problem, not sure why its in light now (not degrading your post OP). grey parts been around for years and lexus/toyota been battling for years.
BIGGER problem now. It's exploded in numbers

I suspect part of the problem is that China is actually suffering internally, and they are trying harder to get more sales/money into China.
one guy I know reproducing AMC parts - stuff that you haven't been able to find in even good used condition for 30 years - he's getting that stuff done in weeks instead of months each time he has an idea. They are taking in project left and right and cranking out stuff really fast. They are hurting, but will never allow it to be seen in public.
So they are working harder than ever to satisfy our desire for cheaper and cheaper stuff.
(we are sort of doing it to ourselves, with the "I can buy it cheaper at walmart" mentality)
I'm done doing that- I want quality stuff and i'll pay a couple bucks more to buy it locally from a mom and pop shop just because I don't want the cheap crap to win.
 

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So, A guy (me) walks into a Jeep/Dodge/RAM dealer. Goes to parts. Tries to buy a SRT 392 oil filter for his Dodge Challenger. Not the alternative filter, they have those. I want a legit SRT 392 filter. The SRT filter is painted white, says SRT on it, and costs a lot more. The alternate is painted in black. They don't have the white SRT filter. They will order it. Is the filter they order a chinese fake?

My local JDR dealer doesn't have my SRT 392 oil filters in stock. So, I buy them in 3 packs on Amazon. Are they fake too?

How do we know?
 

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I need the link!
No link. Just some random sellers on ebay that had it. There a few key things to looks for to spot the genuine filters. I'll post detail photos later.
 

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This Ebay link below is a genuine fuel filter and has photos of all 4 signs to looks for. I also attached a photo of how a genuine box should look like, circled in red. The white half moon background above the filter is gradually faded into the blue graphic vs the more defined print on the counterfeit box.

https://ebay.us/m/nvZG8F

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Edit: here are links to good deals. Make sure to confirm with the seller that they are actual photos of the item. https://ebay.us/m/x9TLEZ
https://ebay.us/m/A5e5vW
 
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It doesn’t matter where you buy it…… or from whom, there’s always the chance of everything you buy being fake. People are getting lazier while fewer people are looking at the details.

Dealership is looking to cut costs…. Parts guy buys parts from a different distributor than he normally orders because they’re cheaper. Parts come in……a part time employee unpacks the parts and doesn’t notice anything different. Meanwhile, the same thing can happen at the distributors. You just don’t know…..

You could have a fake part on your jeep right now and not even know it.

Even Genuine parts aren’t as quality or last as long as they used to. Does that mean the fake ones are worse than that? You’d think so…. but….????

OK…..trying to climb out of this rabbit hole…… 🤪
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