PlayfulBird
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Hi fellow Gladi owners. Need some input by people who are not biased by living in Germany
We have a Gladiator and besides corrosion and trypical Pentastar stuff very happy.
As a secondary, we have a 2005 Grand Cherokee Overland 3.0 CRD assembled in Graz (so pretty solid assemply quality). The tax on it are high and the insurance is almost double that of the Gladiator if we insured it to the same level (it isn't and costs us a little less than the Gladi, do not see the point to have a 6000 Euro vehicle written off and not get even a 1/4 of that in that case. So just important that if we fuck up on the Autobahn, if we were to have an accident with a Porsche 911 GT3 is going to be covered and not bankrupt us).
The vehicle is stock, with a ton of oem from factory stuff still at 125 000 miles. The om642 is solid and has seen regular oil changes and that is it. We did do a transmission flush.
We bought the vehicle 4 years ago, and besides brakes and glow plug control module, we have done nothing on it.
We can no longer drive it to the nearest city, as it is Euro 4, no DPF, which also means fewer problems in my books, and I can use the Gladiator.
It is holding oil fine, but we are thinking oil cooler may have to be replaced eventually, as well as timing chain. The engine is known for some other weaknesses that like to fail at around that point. If, then a rebuild would make sense. Obviously, a ton of electronics. There is a time now to do all the bushings ball joints and so on...
There is a little deadzone when putting it in D or R, but as soon as it revs a little it takes of just fine. A little rust, but nothing crazy.
On the other hand, we can get into a 1987 XJ, 3-door,4.0 4x4 limited that has had a refurb in 2017 and has rust and so on taken care of. It has seen 220 000 miles, has KME lpg system, so runs for the same cost as the diesel here
It has the historic H Plate, so cheap to insure, cheap to run and can be driven everywhere.
Interior conditions are similar.
It comes with another 4.0 run 100 000 miles, nother auto and transfercase and a ton of left over spares.
Obviously it is a classsic oldie and needs ongoing work, but it kinda seems to make sense. Would stay stock or slightly lifted and driven on the LPG for long distances until system gives out, then the unit comes out completely and rebuilt 4.0 goes in.
So theoretically... seems like a great opportunity, but... devil I know, also sentimental about the GC
We have a 60kg dog that we like to go on drives with and theoretically I feel the XJ is very practical, but as always, when you live with the vehicle, you get surprised. Like, for example, when we bought the Glaid I thought I could leave the rear seats in, and I could have, but it would have sucked for our pupper... so we took em out and put in a platform. Tools and spares underneath, dogobed ontop.
Anyway.
Lets hear some opinions. Keeping all 3 is not really an option, space time, and money. No need to have a vehicle fall apart because it is not used enough.
All the best!
We have a Gladiator and besides corrosion and trypical Pentastar stuff very happy.
As a secondary, we have a 2005 Grand Cherokee Overland 3.0 CRD assembled in Graz (so pretty solid assemply quality). The tax on it are high and the insurance is almost double that of the Gladiator if we insured it to the same level (it isn't and costs us a little less than the Gladi, do not see the point to have a 6000 Euro vehicle written off and not get even a 1/4 of that in that case. So just important that if we fuck up on the Autobahn, if we were to have an accident with a Porsche 911 GT3 is going to be covered and not bankrupt us).
The vehicle is stock, with a ton of oem from factory stuff still at 125 000 miles. The om642 is solid and has seen regular oil changes and that is it. We did do a transmission flush.
We bought the vehicle 4 years ago, and besides brakes and glow plug control module, we have done nothing on it.
We can no longer drive it to the nearest city, as it is Euro 4, no DPF, which also means fewer problems in my books, and I can use the Gladiator.
It is holding oil fine, but we are thinking oil cooler may have to be replaced eventually, as well as timing chain. The engine is known for some other weaknesses that like to fail at around that point. If, then a rebuild would make sense. Obviously, a ton of electronics. There is a time now to do all the bushings ball joints and so on...
There is a little deadzone when putting it in D or R, but as soon as it revs a little it takes of just fine. A little rust, but nothing crazy.
On the other hand, we can get into a 1987 XJ, 3-door,4.0 4x4 limited that has had a refurb in 2017 and has rust and so on taken care of. It has seen 220 000 miles, has KME lpg system, so runs for the same cost as the diesel here
It has the historic H Plate, so cheap to insure, cheap to run and can be driven everywhere.
Interior conditions are similar.
It comes with another 4.0 run 100 000 miles, nother auto and transfercase and a ton of left over spares.
Obviously it is a classsic oldie and needs ongoing work, but it kinda seems to make sense. Would stay stock or slightly lifted and driven on the LPG for long distances until system gives out, then the unit comes out completely and rebuilt 4.0 goes in.
So theoretically... seems like a great opportunity, but... devil I know, also sentimental about the GC
We have a 60kg dog that we like to go on drives with and theoretically I feel the XJ is very practical, but as always, when you live with the vehicle, you get surprised. Like, for example, when we bought the Glaid I thought I could leave the rear seats in, and I could have, but it would have sucked for our pupper... so we took em out and put in a platform. Tools and spares underneath, dogobed ontop.
Anyway.
Lets hear some opinions. Keeping all 3 is not really an option, space time, and money. No need to have a vehicle fall apart because it is not used enough.
All the best!
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Your pupper will thank you 
NOTHING like the Grand (if that’s a concern). If it has the same 4.0l and transmission (manual) as our YJ had = bulletproof. The one thing that makes me cringe….. UNIBODY
I mean the XJ atleast has solid axles 
