IMO power is relative to what is average for all vehicles on the road. The pentastar configuration in the Jeep Wrangler/Gladiator models seems behind the curve.
Okay I get that, but the Pentastar gives you 285 hp. I would say in the manner in which I use my JT I've never felt a lack of "power." And I admit that could change if I decide to use it for a different application. But numbers are just that numbers. I work in the medical field, and we have a saying, "treat the patient not the number." Not that numbers don't matter but in the big picture if you focus only on the number, you can miss what matters most.
That's fair, your necessities might not necessitate more power but I'm sure that you wouldn't mind having more also, right?
I disagree. And I think you are missing my point. From a purely physics stand point when measuring power you would take all those things into consideration. I'm merely pointing out that when I'm taking my loaded truck for a camping trip in the woods that frankly 90% of vehicles couldn't get to and I'm in the process of getting from point A to point B the last thing I am thinking is, "The JT sure doesn't have enought power." Like I said it's relative. If I was pulling a 6K lb trailer to that spot I might very well be thinking that.
My opinion could change if my use of application does, absolutely. And no I wouldn't mind more power and torque if it was feasible in the current rig I have now. But frankly I think if I needed something more than what I have now I would probably get a 1/2 or 3/4 ton Ford or Dodge.
My trailer only weighs 2360 lbs fully loaded for 3 weeks and the tongue weight is less than 50lbs. I can move the entire trailer in my garage alone, by hand, without assistance. I'm not making an unreasonable request. That's below the rated towing capacity. Our camping trips sometimes take us a long distance and there's a lot of road miles involved.
i have absolutely driven the 3.0 diesel. I was expecting this massive difference based on the kinds of comments people make on here and reddit.
It's close to 1.5 seconds faster to 60mph which doesn't translate to much on flat ground until you're fully loaded and/or towing, where it's about 5 seconds faster to 60mph. Climbing hills is also where it's noticeable.
That's a far cry from Motortrend's testing:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2021-jeep-gladiator-ecodiesel-first-test-review said:
This is a common misconception about diesels. People always hear how they make so much more torque, so they expect them to be lightening fast, but they aren't. It's a different type of power, different type of torque. It's all low rpm.
I didn't use motor trend's data. 0-60specs.com takes actual track time slips from controlled environments (NHRA tracks and other verified sources) and averages them.
According to your own source, the fastest gladiator tested was a gasser...
