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[GeekJT]

It couldn't have anything to do with giving a soccer mom an 8 second car.

Any guy here, well maybe most of us could give any soccer mom an 8 second ride. Come on now.

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[GeekJT]

Again I'm not talking track stuff, I'm talking daily driver stuff... while also being the quickest production car on the planet. Who said $30k cars. Show me the red car that will beat the plaid from stop light to stop light on the street. Nobody who buys a tesla card about the track. The demon 170 which is similar in price and records a similar 8.9s 1/4 mile at the track couldn't even come close to keeping up in the street. It's not price it is traction and usability. I know it's hard to admit that a tesla sedan will destroy almost any mustang on the road and the vast majority of them on the dragstrip, but that's the reality.

Im going to assume you don't know what a Yangwang U9 Xtreme is. "Tesla is fastest production car" uh... negative ghost rider

 

[ecidiego]

Im going to assume you don't know what a Yangwang U9 Xtreme is. "Tesla is fastest production car" uh... negative ghost rider

I wouldn't get in a BYD in a million years unless China meets US safety standards.

 

[Zachanadandy]

The Mojave is like $20k more than a Sport S or Willys. So not sure why 6k would be a problem for some shocks. (it's 4k fyi to put the same shocks on a willys) Come on now, you can't possibly think you'll win this argument.

Just fess up and admit, there is still a 16 year old in you that says "OOOH lifted jeep, me have fun, ooh and fox shocks muuuahahaha, me take top off too"

Come on you handsome man you. EVERYONE on this forum knows what i'm talking about. Nobody and I mean NOBODY buys a Jeep because it's the smart wise choice. Seriously.

They were not offering anywhere near the discounts on a sport s at the time. The difference would have been closer to $10k than $20k. You still need hydraulic bumpstops do there's another grand. And some of us have the means to buy what we want versus building it, even if it's cheaper. And in my experience in the Jeep world mods don't help resale value so you'd be the same money into the sport s and it would still be worth $10k+ less.

 

[GeekJT]

Nobody who buys a tesla card about the track.

You seem to think

1) there is only one type of driving (illegal street racing), which is a felony now in some places, and the best a stiff misdemeanor at the same level as dui.

2) your comment proves the point.

No car guy buys a Tesla. They have one gimmick, fast in a straight line for a little while.

BUT the moment we talk about anything else, any other type of driving, the Tesla loses it completely.

Let's race in a straight line from NY to LA and see who wins. hmm

 

[Zachanadandy]

Im going to assume you don't know what a Yangwang U9 Xtreme is. "Tesla is fastest production car" uh... negative ghost rider

Did the electric cars suck and you gotta compare price points just chime in with an electric hypercar at $300k and just 30 ever produced as the example tesla beater? I think the koenigsegg Jesko is quicker too, but at $4million it might as well be fictional.

 

[GeekJT]

They were not offering anywhere near the discounts on a sport s at the time. The difference would have been closer to $10k than $20k. You still need hydraulic bumpstops do there's another grand. And some of us have the means to buy what we want versus building it, even if it's cheaper. And in my experience in the Jeep world mods don't help resale value so you'd be the same money into the sport s and it would still be worth $10k+ less.

2 inch lift springs, fox shocks, Oh and some hydraulic bumpstops for $350
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Uh, no, you are at about $5500 to mod willys. Seriously.

Ok man you're superior, if you want to think your 15mpg Mojave was the only option and it was just the smart thing, and there is no kid left in you, boy i bet you're fun at parties, ah, betting you don't do those either since that would be immature too.

 

[Zachanadandy]

You seem to think

1) there is only one type of driving (illegal street racing), which is a felony now in some places, and the best a stiff misdemeanor at the same level as dui.

2) your comment proves the point.

No car guy buys a Tesla. They have one gimmick, fast in a straight line for a little while.

BUT the moment we talk about anything else, any other type of driving, the Tesla loses it completely.

Let's race in a straight line from NY to LA and see who wins. hmm

Your missing the point, it's a family sedan that will even drive itself... and is quick as hell. It's not a hypercar or a track car or a drag car. It's very affordable for what it is and what it can do in a straight line both on the street AND on the strip. Can you find custom vehicles that do that part better? Absolutely. If you're talking on the street I'd start with a track hawk and turn it up. Then it does all of those things better than the tesla aside from the self driving and efficiency but it can actually hook on the road.

 

[GeekJT]

Did the electric cars suck and you gotta compare price points just chime in with an electric hypercar at $300k and just 30 ever produced as the example tesla beater? I think the koenigsegg Jesko is quicker too, but at $4million it might as well be fictional.

So you understand it now? You understand why comparing a 100-140k car to a 48k mustang seems silly? You literally just used the exact same argument i was making.

 

[Zachanadandy]

2 inch lift springs, fox shocks, Oh and some hydraulic bumpstops for $350
https://amzn.to/4otFrdL

Uh, no, you are at about $5500 to mod willys. Seriously.

Ok man you're superior, if you want to think your 15mpg Mojave was the only option and it was just the smart thing, and there is no kid left in you, boy i bet you're fun at parties, ah, betting you don't do those either since that would be immature too.

If you think drifting a 5k+ pound truck in the desert at freeway speed isn't childish, and a bit insane I think you're interpretation of me is all wrong. If you read my original response I said the Jeeps were both the fun toy vehicle purchase and the wise one... for our use. The 2023 willys didn't have the rear locker so you'd be another $2k into your similar build. Spending $7500 to build out the willys in order to save maybe $10-12k at purchase while also causing potential warranty issues out the gate and still having a much lower resale value doesn't make sense to me, but you do you. I have a lifetime of childish purchases and irresponsible decisions, but for my intended use the mojave wasn't one.

 

[AustyPosty]

The interest in electric cars is tanking imo. It’s not really talked about as much anymore. I write for an automotive website and we stopped our heavy push for electric vehicle articles because people aren’t as interested and aren’t reading about them as much anymore.

I don’t want to say electric vehicles are a fad because they aren’t, but I think the initial hype is severely wearing off, especially for non car people. I think 99% of people these days would take a hybrid over electric.

 

[Zachanadandy]

So you understand it now? You understand why comparing a 100-140k car to a 48k mustang seems silly? You literally just used the exact same argument i was making.

Which is why I pointed out you were contradicting your own argument. A $48k mustang isn't even in the ballpark. But even a demon 170 that will hang at the track and is similarly priced won't hang where most of us drive most of the time. And both the mustang and the demon aren't good family cars. THAT'S what is impressive about the Tesla. Efficient, comfortable, low maintenance, family transportation that will even drive you to work... and stupid quick on any surface.

 

[GeekJT]

Your missing the point, it's a family sedan that will even drive itself... and is quick as hell. It's not a hypercar or a track car or a drag car. It's very affordable for what it is and what it can do in a straight line both on the street AND on the strip. Can you find custom vehicles that do that part better? Absolutely. If you're talking on the street I'd start with a track hawk and turn it up. Then it does all of those things better than the tesla aside from the self driving and efficiency but it can actually hook on the road.

I agree with you on what it is. You describe it well. I don't know if I would call 110-135k "affordable" if we are talking about the plaid. I think in the coming years resale values are gonna become a real problem as these electrics become more disposable. As they have to become more profitable they will become the disposable car. We are already seeing this in the model 3.

In the year 1900, 1/3 of cars was electric. They had the same issues then as they do today, but today they make them with a bunch of hype and gimmicks to try and make people happy with them. I don't think it'll last honestly unless they can last with about only 2% of cars being electric, maybe the population numbers can make it work, but right now they are like 1.4% of all on road cars.

I mean if they lose the hype around them, it'll be over pretty quick. If the general population actually learns what happens when they catch fire, like that's some scary stuff. Yeah rare but does happen, and as they become more affordable, more on the road and then get some with number that are aged, fires will become a bigger issue i think. That battery goes up, it's generally not good for the people in it. It's a very angry type of fire.

But yea, I agree the Tesla is a good electric car, I'm not saying they are bad so much, just that I'm not happy with the cons they have. It's just not for me. I have functioning testicles still. Maybe when im 70, 80 years old and don't wanna drive (highly unlikely) then i'll get one.

 

[GeekJT]

The interest in electric cars is tanking imo. It’s not really talked about as much anymore. I write for an automotive website and we stopped our push for electric vehicle articles lot because people aren’t as interested and aren’t reading about them as much anymore.

I don’t want to say electric vehicles are a fad because they aren’t, but I think the initial hype is severely wearing off, especially for non car people. I think 99% of people these days would take a hybrid over electric.

We did this electric experiment in the 1890s, in 1900 1/3 of all on the road cars were electric and they had the same exact issues we have with modern ones. Fuel cell to me is a far better option and you can have your electric power without destroying the electrical grid. Hydrogen is the most abundant fuel source we have on earth it makes no sense we don't use it.

But big oil hates it (no money for them in it)
and Big electric hates it (no money for them in it)
and Big auto and groups like Tesla etc don't like them because they don't know how they would design planned obsolescence into them. Now they get to sell battery packs if you keep your car that's 10-20k so that's like selling another car. Or you dispose of your electric and buy a new one.

 

[GeekJT]

Jesus your ignorance is amazing….

I‘ll bet that most of us are car guys to one extent or another and I’ll bet that I have rebuilt more engines than you..
I’ve also raced on more race tracks than you.
I’ve also instructed more people how to drive fast on a race track than you and that includes some who work for 3 letter agencies..

The other thing you obviously don’t know anything about is that many EV get updates over the air, usually at night while I’m sleeping so my ‘23 YLR has the same updates as a current model. It is basically a new car. Can’t say that about any ICE vehicle…

Let‘s just drop it…

Ugh, you know Fords and Jeeps do ota updates right?

Hmm, so you think your computer hardware will be just as good as new ones in 5-7 years? mmk.

and Nahuh I've raced more than you, oh geez, the fact ppl say stuff like that without even knowing a person's background is a riot.

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