IamPro2A
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- First Name
- Chris
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- Apr 25, 2021
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- New Hampshire - Live Free Or Die!
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- '95 YJ, '07 Ram, '25 JTR, '26 JLU (sold '16 JK, '21 JT, '25 JLU)
- Occupation
- Retired-ish
The problem with that is I generally order my Jeeps, so I don't have that option until after the fact, which is why I must use the information Jeep provides to inform my decision. Especially since my dealer is almost 2hrs away, and apparently there are zero 2026 model max tows optioned the way I want sitting on a lot anywhere in the country, and the nearest 2026 max tow of any sort is 7hrs away. Which is how the conversation turned to Rubicons, and the 2025 Rubicon sitting on the lot at a sister dealership the next state over that is configured exactly the way I want (and then some)that he will sell me for less than the 2026 sport s max tow.If the true vehicle payload is important to you, I'd suggest going by what that door jamb sticker says on the truck you're interested in versus anything else.
I understand it may not be an exact thing, but if the curb weight stays the same and payload and towing capacity change, you would think the combined number would too. Especially in the example where the combined weight - curb weight - trailer weight = a remaining payload capacity so low adding a driver puts you overweight.One note on GCVW: an increase in curb weight won't necessarily (and most likely won't) cause a change in the maximum combined weight allowed. While it may seem like GCVW can be calculated like payload can, just add up curb weight, payload, and tow rating, that simply isn't true. GCVW is a fixed number defining how much a vehicle and trailer combo can weigh, no more. A simple check of the difference between GCVW and GVWR not equaling the tow rating easily demonstrates this.
It's probably all academic at this point, because I decided to take the deal on the 2025, unless somebody else beat me to it. The discrepancies and misinformation about critical specs are still annoying, and to me at least are not in the same league as errors in the "build a jeep" website. That has always been just a starting point. Something to give to the dealer, who then uses that to order what you want. But things like towing and payload capacity need to be clear and consistent. If the owner's manual tells you the place to find the towing capacity is at a certain website, that website has got to be accurate. What happens If someone buys a 2026 Rubicon, and gets in an accident towing their 7,350lb camper? Their owner's manual makes no mention of a door sticker, it tells them to go to website, and that website told them they can safely tow 7.700 lbs. Why won't their insurance cover this? Why are they getting sued? Why did the police say they were negligent and at fault for being overweight?
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