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41Willys

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There is a reason I bought my last 6 cars via the Internet Sales Department @ the dealership. I am a Buyer by profession with over 20 years of experience in the Purchasing Department of a very large organization.

It used to be mildly entertaining to thrust and perry in person with salesmen. But I tired of the ridiculous antics they pulled and frankly, the sophmoric behavior they exhibited. I'm sure there are competent salesmen out there, and several are mentioned and/or are followers (sponsors?) of this board. But in my experience, they are few and far between.

I think in general, you have somewhat of a buying frenzy about to start on these things. That usually means little if any discount, and as you have seen in some cases, selling at a premium. I remember dealer "market adjustment" invoice tack ons to hot cars back in the 80's. Nice try, no frickin way - let some other sucker pay that.

A couple of old car salesmen sayings are "if the top comes off, the price goes up," and "when their eyes glaze, the buyer pays." The best is "the new car smell is the most expensive aroma in the world."

Once the initial excitement and rush dies down, it will get easier and likely a little less expensive. As for me, I will likely pick up a used model or program car in 3 or 4 years. Yeah, I know, they will cost just as much as a brand new one because they don't depreciate. Ha.
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Sold cars for 15 years , Managed stores and sales people as well.

In all my life I’ve never seen as many sales people so uneducated about a product . I spoke to at least 4 dealers who told me absolute bs. If I was managing a store my sales people would be educated about our product or go find another job.

This price gouging really sets me off as well. I can’t understand that attitude . These dealers will suffer at the end of the day . You sell the vehicle at market value and make your money on the back end (warranties, gap, doc fee, dent repair warranty etc..)

Most buyers finance these . Try your local credit union at 5k over sticker and see how that works out . Plus the client is so deep they could never trade it in. Makes no sense to me .

Have a bad feeling we will see gladiators piled on lots due to the incompetence of the new car manager . Thus hurting values later down the road
 

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Sold cars for 15 years , Managed stores and sales people as well.

In all my life I’ve never seen as many sales people so uneducated about a product . I spoke to at least 4 dealers who told me absolute bs. If I was managing a store my sales people would be educated about our product or go find another job.

This price gouging really sets me off as well. I can’t understand that attitude . These dealers will suffer at the end of the day . You sell the vehicle at market value and make your money on the back end (warranties, gap, doc fee, dent repair warranty etc..)

Most buyers finance these . Try your local credit union at 5k over sticker and see how that works out . Plus the client is so deep they could never trade it in. Makes no sense to me .

Have a bad feeling we will see gladiators piled on lots due to the incompetence of the new car manager . Thus hurting values later down the road
The guys that are charging 5-15k over sticker, may sell one or two, but the rest will sit, until they have to drop the insane mark up. Not to mention, it makes them look so bad, as is the case with a dealership i went to the day before yesterday. I’ll never buy a car from them. They have a lot of JL stock, and I know why. They charge 2k over sticker for them. Before the gladiator, I was thinking of a rubicon JL, but, not from that place.
 

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I believe this is the right spot for this conversation I had today with a dealer in Texas.
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I believe this is the right spot for this conversation I had today with a dealer in Texas.
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That dealer sounds like garbage ... $5k deposit and MSRP?!?! Dealer in Denver (also high price and with a $1k deposit) has 9 Gladiators coming in, but his allotment includes Rubicon, Sport, and Overland.
 

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Called a local dealer to see if they had any Gladiators yet or knew when they would. Salesman said 2-3 months.. jeep inventory says they have one in route.. :headbang:
 

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Had my oil changed yesterday at dealer . Asked salesperson about gladiator , he said what’s that ?

I kinda laughed and told him nicely to go google Jeep gladiator . Not to beat a dead horse but I truly amazed at these salesmen and the lack of knowledge
 
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dying... lol
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