***Official Mojave Thread*** Lets talk Mojaves

[MoparToYou]

JKS quick disconnects fix that problem.

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[brain]

The Mojave is less of a rock crawler (than a Rubicon), and more of a "runner".

Rubicons are designed for slow rock crawling ("as slow as possible and as fast as necessary"). The Sway Bar helps stabilize the suspension and drivability of the vehicle at any speed. With the advent of the JLs, they come with an electronic Sway Bar disconnect capability that allows you to push a button on the dashboard to disconnect the Sway Bar end links so the vehicle can exercise its full suspension with maximum articulation. This means at slow speeds shocks, springs, and other components can stretch as far as they can go based on specs (spacer lifts, 2", 3", 4", 6" lifts with more aggressive components and bigger tires. Before electronic Sawy Bar disconnects, this was done manually.

There is some debate around why FCA designed the Mojave eliminating the electronic Sway Bar disconnect option, and also the Front Lockers. NOTE: The lockers also help a lot with control and elements of offroading by controlling how wheels spin under different conditions (rocks, mud, climbing, etc). However, the gearing in the axles is also different so the Mojave can run up to 50 MPH in High/ Low. That is a game-changer. Front Lockers affect gearing.

With all that said, the current Mojave design can make changes to the suspension a bit complicated. The primary culprit is the otherwise awesome shocks with reservoirs, springs, and gearing that come standard on the Mojave. However, if you want the best of both worlds it's pretty simple (and easy) to mount manual Sway Bar disconnects on the Mojave. My stance is, why not give yourself another option?

NOTE: There is some fun in the forums with referring to this upgraded beast as a "Rubijave" or "Mojavicon". You now get a desert, trail, or overland vehicle that can travel up to 50 MPH in lower gears, but it can also crawl almost as slow as a Rubicon (something like 6 MPH as opposed to 3 MPH - I'm not 100% sure about the exact speed). In my opinion, this is the best move. I like options, and don't like limitations.

So, I'm mounting manual Sway Bar disconnects myself in two weeks. In late December I am having a local shop take a run at mounting Front Lockers depending on how it affects my higher speed options. I have not completely thought that through or evaluated the engineering changes that result. Stay "tuned".

I hope this helps. If you want more details let me know and I'm happy to get on the phone with you. I've owned and built seventeen Wranglers.

 

[Dewyaw]

The Mojave is less of a rock crawler (than a Rubicon), and more of a "runner".

Rubicons are designed for slow rock crawling ("as slow as possible and as fast as necessary"). The Sway bar helps stabilize the suspension and drivability of the vehicle. With the advent of the JLs, they come with an electronic Sway Bar disconnect capability that allows you to push a button to disconnect the Sway Bar end links so the vehicle can exercise its full suspension with maximum articulation. This means at slow speeds shocks, springs, and other components can stretch as far as they can go based on specs.

Before electronic Sawy Bar disconnects this was done manually.

There is some debate around why FCA designed the Mojave eliminating the electronic Sway Bar disconnect option, and also the Front Lockers. The lockers also help a lot with control and elements of offroading by controlling how wheels spin under different conditions (rocks, mud, climbing, etc).

The current Mojave design can make changes to the suspension a bit complicated. The primary culprit is the otherwise awesome shocks with reservoirs, springs, and gearing (in the axles) that come standard on the Mojave. However, if you want the best of both worlds it's pretty simple (and easy) to mount manual Sway Bar disconnects on the Mojave. My stance is, why not give yourself another option? So, I'm doing this myself in two weeks. In late December I am having a local shop mounts Front Lockers.

There is some fun in the forums with referring to this upgraded beast as a "Rubijave" or "Mojavicon". You now get a desert, trail, or overland vehicle that can travel up to 50 MPH in lower gears, but it can also crawl almost as slow as a Rubicon (something like 6 MPH as opposed to 3 MPH - I'm not 100% sure about the exact speed). In my opinion, this is the best move. I like options, and don't like limitations.

I hope this helps. If you want more details let me know and I'm happy to get on the phone with you. I've owned and built seventeen Wranglers.

What front lockers are you looking at?

 

[brain]

What front lockers are you looking at?

Hey Jeff.

That is what we are evaluating. My experience is ARB is never a bad option; maybe Yukon. I THINK it costs around $3k to $4k at a minimum to re-gear axles. At the moment, I am wondering if we can run with a manual solution. But, the gearing questions around speed is the main consideration.

 

[MoparToYou]

The difference in gearing between a Mojave and Rubicon is in the transfer case, not the axles. Both models are available with 4.10:1 gearing in the axles. The transfer case on the Mojave has a 2.72:1 low range ratio, and the transfer case on the Rubicon has a 4:1 low range ratio. Lockers do not affect gearing, they just lock both axle shafts together.

The first electronic sway bar disconnects were available in the TJ, not the JL. They were first released in 2005.

The advantage of the electronic sway bar disconnect on the Rubicon is that it is easy. Push a button and it is disconnected. The advantage of a manual sway bar disconnect, like the JKS ones I use, is that once you have stopped to disconnect them, they stay disconnected. It doesn't continually reconnect every time your speed goes over 18 mph. I prefer being able to push a button to disconnect the sway bar. I also prefer to have the sway bar stay disconnected once I choose to disconnect it. So both methods have their advantages. Perhaps a Tazer, or other electronic tuner could do away with the speed limitations of the electronic sway bar disconnect, and that would be the best of both worlds.

 

[brain]

The difference in gearing between a Mojave and Rubicon is in the transfer case, not the axles. Both models are available with 4.10:1 gearing in the axles. The transfer case on the Mojave has a 2.72:1 low range ratio, and the transfer case on the Rubicon has a 4:1 low range ratio. Lockers do not affect gearing, they just lock both axle shafts together.

The first electronic sway bar disconnects were available in the TJ, not the JL. They were first released in 2005.

The advantage of the electronic sway bar disconnect on the Rubicon is that it is easy. Push a button and it is disconnected. The advantage of a manual sway bar disconnect, like the JKS ones I use, is that once you have stopped to disconnect them, they stay disconnected. It doesn't continually reconnect every time your speed goes over 18 mph. I prefer being able to push a button to disconnect the sway bar. I also prefer to have the sway bar stay disconnected once I choose to disconnect it. So both methods have their advantages. Perhaps a Tazer, or other electronic tuner could do away with the speed limitations of the electronic sway bar disconnect, and that would be the best of both worlds.

Thank you for the correction. Awesome.

 

[MoparToYou]

Installed a Teraflex 2.5" lift on my Mo Jave today. Would have had the 37s on as well, but the tire store ordered the correct 37x12.50R-17 tires, ... with 20x9 wheels. Now I get to wait another few days for the correct 17x9 wheels to get here. Here it is with the 35s still on it.

 

[Clv22p]

Little work...little play today!

 

[wilsoncraft]

The 2020 model year does not have this feature, only the 2021 model year. We apologize for any inconvenience.

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Hi. I have a 2021 Mojave and cannot engage the rear locker in 4-hi either.

 

[Clv22p]

Hi. I have a 2021 Mojave and cannot engage the rear locker in 4-hi either.

Tell me how you are doing it. I had problems, but it requires a very specific process. If it's not exact you can't do it. I had problems at first too.

 

[wilsoncraft]

Tell me how you are doing it. I had problems, but it requires a very specific process. If it's not exact you can't do it. I had problems at first too.

Hi

I did a little more research and it appears I may have to be in off-road+ mode? I was trying to simply turn on the rear locker in 4h and got a message about needing to be in 4L

Thx

 

[Clv22p]

Hi

I did a little more research and it appears I may have to be in off-road+ mode? I was trying to simply turn on the rear locker in 4h and got a message about needing to be in 4L

Thx

You also have to hold traction control button for about 5 second to to stability off

 

[big0729]

'21 Mojave....beautiful day in the northeast, took the panels off. Hit the highway, engine was stuttering no power and engine light came on. Dropped off at dealer and misfire in cylinder 3, needed to leave it there and wait to hear back on monday. Wtf....$61k ordered from factory and engine issues after 1,300 miles????


So sad.....

 

[OscarM]

Installed a Teraflex 2.5" lift on my Mo Jave today. Would have had the 37s on as well, but the tire store ordered the correct 37x12.50R-17 tires, ... with 20x9 wheels. Now I get to wait another few days for the correct 17x9 wheels to get here. Here it is with the 35s still on it.

Wow ? do you have a link for the 2.5 terraflex?

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