Automatic braking with nothing in front of me.

[saintpauljeff]

Adaptive cruise is so annoying. It just turns you into one of the other dorks going slow in the fast lane.

LOL this is so true. Had a couple rental cars with adaptive cruise, just plain brutal. Wanted nothing to do with this option.

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[SwampNut]

I use ACC about 95% of the time. I never use normal cruise, and almost never drive without ACC on. It's safe, relaxing, and keeps you nicely with the flow of traffic in whatever lane you choose. My wife doesn't really like Jeeps or trucks, but is now choosing the Gladiator over her sports car because of the ACC. On road trips the ACC means I arrive far more relaxed and alert--which obviously is a safety benefit.

AEB save my ass one time when an idiot did something stupid, and it saw the move before it became visible to me, as my view was blocked. I've never had it seriously screw up, but it's pretty sensitive to cars that signal a right but don't fully move over. I'm not really thinking that it's wrong either, but that we tend to just assume the driver will complete his turn. Until they don't. A friend hit a car that was turning but then stopped suddenly for a bicyclist.

Because of AEB and all the other safety features, my insurance is under $50/mo with $300k/500k, great coverage, and $500 deductible. Run the same quote without the safety group and the price jumps. I was paying over double that for the 2015 JKUR. So the safety features literally pay for themselves, and also may pay for themselves figuratively in long term enjoyment and safety.

 

[SwampNut]

Had a couple rental cars with adaptive cruise

There are many quality levels in ACC. Toyota is one of the worst, FCA one of the best, and others in between.

 

[WMWHV]

I’m placing an order for my second gladiator tomorrow and had been considering ordering this mostly for the auto bright headlights and the adaptive cruise on road trips.

Do most of y’all find this useful and would you order again?

May be too late to help you, but for future readers of this thread, I have it, I use and like the ACC part and would buy it again. The auto braking feature has beeped twice, but has not locked me up yet.

The ACC is the "aggressive driver" somebody else mentioned. My wife does not like it because it can't think ahead based on what people are doing and thus is a bit jerky in both braking and acceleration. We are both pretty defensive drivers, so we would normally start slowing down for slowing traffic a bit earlier and would not accelerate as quickly as it does. She is pressing the "wife's virtual brake pedal" on the passenger side a good bit. All my normal cruise controls are similar on the acceleration side. If you have to slow down and then hit "resume" going 10-15 less than the programmed speed, it tends to floor it on most cars. I do a lot of long distance interstate driving and not having to tweak the cruise control is a big plus. You just have to watch it because you can lose speed if you are not paying attention. In Texas, our speed limit is generally 75. I set it for that and if it comes up on somebody going 70, it slows to 70. If you are not paying attention, you can drive along forever at 70 and not realize you have slowed down and need to go around. If you are in some traffic and the person going slower in front of you changes lanes, it will rapidly accelerate to try to reach your programmed speed, only to hit the brakes again when it catches up to the next car in front. Partial solutions to all of these issues can be found in ensuring your set speed is close to the flow of traffic and tweaking the following distance setting. And I agree with those who say it remains your responsibility to drive the car, not the machine's.

As to the auto brake function, it chirped at me once when I was coming up on a u turn lane pretty quickly. There was a sign in front of the vehicle and it did not know I was going to turn to miss it. It never braked. There was one other occasion when it chirped and I did not see a reason for it.

 

[Gladman]

My one and only experience with ACC is negative. Yes it was annoying to be constantly slowing due to other drivers cutting in too close when passing and changing lanes back in front of me. However, the 2015 VW Touareg I had needed an alignment after 1500 kms. Took it to the dealer and after a test drive they agreed to do it. Booked it in for a few days later because they had to borrow the $40k machine from another dealer. Took them 17 hours of shop time to get it done because all of the sensors need to be deactivated, then a 4 wheel laser alignment done with the vehicle on this electronic tool, and then all the sensors have to be calibrated to the new alignment also electronically.

Granted, they had never done one before and they did get it correct. But MOG, can you imagine if you had to pay for that? Even experienced techs would likely take 8 hours according to the Service manager. I bailed on that VW as soon as I got a good price for it. Only lost a few k so I didn’t mind.

Now I don’t know how an FCA product with this system handles that, can’t imagine it is much of a different process though, so I have stayed away from that system since. Perhaps some of these issues are related to incorrect sensor calibrations.

 

[TheSolarWizard]

My one and only experience with ACC is negative. Yes it was annoying to be constantly slowing due to other drivers cutting in too close when passing and changing lanes back in front of me. However, the 2015 VW Touareg I had needed an alignment after 1500 kms. Took it to the dealer and after a test drive they agreed to do it. Booked it in for a few days later because they had to borrow the $40k machine from another dealer. Took them 17 hours of shop time to get it done because all of the sensors need to be deactivated, then a 4 wheel laser alignment done with the vehicle on this electronic tool, and then all the sensors have to be calibrated to the new alignment also electronically.

Granted, they had never done one before and they did get it correct. But MOG, can you imagine if you had to pay for that? Even experienced techs would likely take 8 hours according to the Service manager. I bailed on that VW as soon as I got a good price for it. Only lost a few k so I didn’t mind.

Now I don’t know how an FCA product with this system handles that, can’t imagine it is much of a different process though, so I have stayed away from that system since. Perhaps some of these issues are related to incorrect sensor calibrations.

Ended up ordering it mostly because the discount my insurance is going to give me for that feature has an ROI of 15 months. Part of the issue with your VW was lane keep assist alignment of the wheels doesn’t impact measuring the distance between two cars. The Jeep just has a camera behind the windshield, not tied into the windshield like everyone else

 

[Gladman]

No, lane assist was a different feature. Interconnected yes. The VW was also equipped with camera at the windshield for ACC.

 

[SwampNut]

You can't compare ACC across different companies. Consumer Reports did an article where they basically raved about FCA and said Toyota was trash, with the others in various other places. Also the JT/JL are the only systems I'm aware of where the sensors are on a fixed metal mount, the others attach to the windshield. ACC/AEB are saving me around $40/mo on insurance. I have the 8 year 80k mile extended coverage from Mopar. I simply don't have to worry about it.

 

[Rocksalt]

this nanny is yet one more step towards being driverless... baby steps to incrementally relieve you of control. Bon appetit.

 

[Mr._Bill]

this nanny is yet one more step towards being driverless... baby steps to incrementally relieve you of control. Bon appetit.

It is a driver aid, not a nanny. You have the choice of using it. If it were a nanny, you would be forced to use it. The Jeep is a long way from becoming self-driving, the closest is a Tesla, as that is one of their goals.

 

[Gladman]

It is a driver aid, not a nanny. You have the choice of using it. If it were a nanny, you would be forced to use it. The Jeep is a long way from becoming self-driving, the closest is a Tesla, as that is one of their goals.

And they are failing miserably at that.

 

[Mr._Bill]

And they are failing miserably at that.

They are doing well enough that people are overriding the safety controls and using the advanced cruise control to self-drive the car. This has resulted in several deaths they have tried to blame Tesla for. They did make a mistake by naming their cruise control 'Auto-Pilot' since that is not what it is supposed to be used for.

 

[danielspivey]

If you’re going 65 in a 75 lane, you’re a dork. I don’t need the driver aid to help me deal with that. Also, I keep the proper distance, I hate tailgaters. I just don’t need the vehicle to do that for me.

It’s annoying when people make these comments. It’s called a speed “limit”, which means the maximum you should be going. Just because the culture across the US is that you can go close to 10 over without getting a ticket doesn’t change the fact it’s a limit.

Speed limit = max speed, not minimum like your implying, don’t be a dork.

 

[Gladman]

True, but what the reality is Tesla is attempting to modify existing technology (cruise, lane change, ACC etc) to achieve the autonomous result. This won’t work.
The successful implementation of autonomous will come from software developed totally dedicated to that end and Tesla is attempting the cheap route, that’s why I say they will fail - imo.
I would bet beers that they will not be the first to have an approved autonomous system, if they ever have one following the current path.

 

[danielspivey]

I use ACC about 95% of the time. I never use normal cruise, and almost never drive without ACC on. It's safe, relaxing, and keeps you nicely with the flow of traffic in whatever lane you choose. My wife doesn't really like Jeeps or trucks, but is now choosing the Gladiator over her sports car because of the ACC. On road trips the ACC means I arrive far more relaxed and alert--which obviously is a safety benefit.

AEB save my ass one time when an idiot did something stupid, and it saw the move before it became visible to me, as my view was blocked. I've never had it seriously screw up, but it's pretty sensitive to cars that signal a right but don't fully move over. I'm not really thinking that it's wrong either, but that we tend to just assume the driver will complete his turn. Until they don't. A friend hit a car that was turning but then stopped suddenly for a bicyclist.

Because of AEB and all the other safety features, my insurance is under $50/mo with $300k/500k, great coverage, and $500 deductible. Run the same quote without the safety group and the price jumps. I was paying over double that for the 2015 JKUR. So the safety features literally pay for themselves, and also may pay for themselves figuratively in long term enjoyment and safety.

I agree I like ACC. I had it on my accord and love it for commuting.... especially on 55 mph two lane roads. It’s nice on two lane roads and you can set a max speed and not worry about getting a ticket.

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