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I'd be much more inclined to call it bad design from the aftermarket part manufacturer. During their "testing" they had to have known that the tolerances were non-existent.........

It's kind of crazy how some people seem to be so obsessed over trade in values. Find the truck you really want and, if you can comfortability afford it, buy it and move on with life. Why stress yourself over what it could possibly be worth 3-4 years from now? I bought a Rubicon diesel 2 months...

Just looked at their website--Now that same diesel is listed at $52k with hardly any options?? You're better off spending another $8-10k and getting a truck that has an option or two. I have to wonder if any of these advertised prices are actually being honored.........

That's wishful thinking--I hope that's the case because I would like to pick something up, but all indicators say the opposite is true. Banks have tightened lending considerably since 2008. People had also locked in at historically low interest rates that are unlikely to come back anytime...

I bought a 2023 diesel a month ago. Sticker was $74.3k(early '23 build--to build now would be just under $77k) and was able to get it for $63.4k+TTL. Could I have waited for another month or 3 to buy with deeper discounts? Absolutely. This problem with that line of thought is that the one I...

They are not limited in the context that you can't order them, it's just difficult to find one with the right options on the dealer lots. Out of the 1100 gladiators in a 300 mile radius of me, only 7% of them have the diesel motor. When you add making it a Rubicon or a getting a specific color...

As you know, the 23 at 23% off of MSRP is clearly the better deal. Colors and options play a huge role on how much dealers are willing to negotiate. The dealers around here are littered with "sport" black, white and grey/silver models, so you can push them for deeper discounts. Before the dealer...

I love the orange--There's an orange diesel Rubicon that just came on the market in Indiana. Wish I would have waited a little bit before buying the red one! If it's the color and spec you want, go for it. When I was looking a couple of weeks ago, people were commenting on how many Gladiators...

Anyone who actually owned an Alfa Romeo would know how to properly spell it--just saying........

I was in this same position weeks ago-You have got to remember that there have been multiple price increases on both the base and the options which would make those discounts worth more than they initially seem. I was looking at a 2022 diesel in Indiana--now it's marked down to $55k. It has the...

Considering we're talking about a 2023 Rubicon, that's not even close to being totaled. One of my best friends owns a truck repair shop, and I have seen them repair damaged pillars/rails worse than that many times. The rear door will need a new shell transferring over the interior trim panel...

Buy the factory Mopar option--There are a few really good You Tube videos outlining the installation. It looks factory and works flawlessly..........

Nice JT!!!! Love the sting grey with the color matched fenders and hardtop. Yeah--With the discounts and the diesel being discontinued, I figured it was now or never when it came to getting a new one. I'm sure you were in the same position--Congrats!

Already do!--It really is a different experience than driving the gas powered HA. That truck had a more of a composed "SUV feel" to it--which was a plus in some situations. This one feels more like a truck that is ready to take on anything you want to throw at it. Love the clatter from the motor...

Thanks! No problem at all--The cost was $63350+TTL and a $400 dealer doc fee. Wisconsin is only eligible for the 10% rebate as opposed the 15% other regions have. There was an additional $750 rebate I received after playing around with the Jeep website tho. Any little bit helps!

After going through 2 Gladiators from Carmax--The first one a super clean 2022 High Altitude and the second a 2021 Rubicon that needed a little help, I finally said screw it and bought a new one. After driving a diesel, I knew that's the direction I needed to go. Even with the reported issues...

The one I just picked up on Monday had an MSRP of $74315--Ended up paying $63800+TTL and doc fees......There were some available with a larger percentage of a discount, but there's a price to pay for having every option box checked(ACC/Cold Weather/Lane Assist/Katskin leather/painted top and...

For all those saying you should demand 25% off, take a look at the ratio of gas powered gladiators to diesel powered trucks in your market. The dealers aren't ignorant--they are well aware of the rarity and know that when the current crop is gone, the manufacturer will never make them again. The...

I literally just bought a diesel today. Originally had no intention of spending $65k, but finding a 2023 in a bright color(ended up with firecracker red) with the right options is next to impossible. They all seem to be in either black, white or grey. After driving a diesel for a week, I was...

Definitely--I have already looked into the aftermarket heated seats, but the thing is I could probably live without the seats--but that heated steering wheel would be tough to lose......