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Agreed--From what I've read on the forum, the diesels can be temperamental and can act up in strange ways that might not readily be apparent in a test drive. I don't know why the previous owner gave it up and I won't be able to hitch a trailer to it and head west to see if it's one of those that...

Definitely--I've bought 2 vehicles from them and am happy with the process. If something is missing or needs to be corrected, they take care of it. It's really a hassle free, no bs type of buying situation. I know that the price is the price, I was just wondering what knowledgable people's...

I have a like new 2022 sting grey High Altitude with 7500 miles. Car Max just took in a 2021 Rubicon diesel with 16k miles. The only options the Rubicon is missing that I would want is the cold weather package. It's priced at $51k. Trade in value to trade in value, the HA I currently own...

The insurance company isn't doing anything wrong here. Without an agreed value policy, for which the premiums that the OP would have had to pay would have DEFINITELY increased, the only thing that the insurance company owes the OP is the value of the base vehicle that premiums were being paid...

Not everyone--but there is no doubt that many have had cooling and derating problems as evidenced by the first hand accounts reported in these forums and others as well........Clearly Jeep knew there was an issue by limiting the towing maximum to under that of the 3.6 Rubicons. I'm still...

If you are thinking about towing, yes the eco diesel is better, until it isn't.......I'm still on the fence as to whether on not I want to trade my 2022 on a diesel. It's clear that Jeep was having a serious issue getting the heat out of the motor. The majority of us who tow travel trailers will...

Damn--It's a 2022. A $63k msrp and it doesn't even have heated seats--no wonder it hasn't sold......

I'm in the same position. I don't know if I'm as serious about the purchase tho. A loaded 2023 Diesel Rubicon with a list of $75k marked down to $64k. They are offering $42k for my spotless 2022 High Altitude--so I'm looking at around $22k+TTL. The diesel is effectively under the stop sale until...

I drove the Mojave, Rubicon and the Overland(High Altitude package) All of them were at different dealerships--so different roads. The Rubicon seemed to wander more--It required more input to keep the thing tracking correctly. With the sarge green paint, it had a seriously cool look tho. The...

Some of the diesels listed around here(there are still not too many at this point) are 15% off of MSRP. When it gets to 20% off, I might consider buying. Most are aware that Jeep is abandoning the diesel, this might incentivize the dealers to offer some larger discounts.........

No one is paying that though. I was just offered, and may still consider if they can come down a little more, a fully loaded diesel Rubicon-including the cross stitched seats-for $63k. The MSRP was just shy of $75k.......

The market will speak and the prices will adjust accordingly. The dealership with a loaded 2023 Rubicon diesel I was considering called yesterday. With an almost $75k MSRP, they have moved to $12k under list. The only issue, is that I would have to take $5k less than I paid 5 months ago for my...

That's exactly it--when initially deciding on a Gladiator, I drove a diesel Rubicon and liked how the engine performed. The pentastar was flawed when released, but the manufacturer was/is committed to sticking by that motor and over a decade plus, has refined it to a point where it is basically...

I'm in the exact opposite camp--If the diesel was the only option, I'm guessing most(including myself) wouldn't consider the Gladiator. When I first started looking, I had to have a diesel because of the towing angle. The more you read about the problems with emissions, electrical...

Possibly......it was a stupid demand for the Union to make. All it did was illustrate how ridiculous the Unions have become and galvanize people against them......

Prices will level off after production is moved to Mexico........Which will be perfect, because it should be right about the time I'm ready to buy a new one:)

Carmax will gladly pay for ANY item that came from the factory with the Jeep. Mine was missing the tool kit too. Ordered it along with a front plate mounting kits from the jeep dealership, emailed them the receipt, and they sent a check out asap

The automakers ARE paying their workers--As far as line work is considered, unionized auto manufacturing employees have some of the best compensation packages out there. Of course, the corporation has every right to retain the profit. If the UAW brass weren't such greedy pigs, they could have...

What does this have to do with anything? The only thing they should be concerned with is whether or not their wages are comparable to other factory/line workers. If not, why don't they just take their extensive skillsets to another company to make the money they think they deserve? The UAW...

16' basecamp--2800lbs empty. Only pulled it a couple of times--aside from the mirrors, no issues.....