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Threw down a reservation. By 2027 the wife will probably need a new SUV. Can always cancel. Also, what is broken inside of me that i get excited for second row captains chairs or first row bench seats? maybe it's tied to my love of sleeper cars, station wagons, and manual transmission. Maybe i...

I agree, the sunrider for hardtop is fantastic! But unless you guys develop some better customer service procedures or develop another product that no one has an equivalence for like the sunrider... my experience with your poorly designed and manufactured sidesteps and the return process...

do you want an off-road truck that has to be careful over speed bumps? Because that's how you get an off-road truck that has to be careful over speed bumps.

A naturally aspirated V8 that runs on regular gas paired with a manual trans. 5.7, LT1, Coyote, i don't really care. Hell you can drop a Tau 5.0 in there if it fits.

Tata or BYD would love an established dealership network in the US.

Revisiting this idea... the rarest gladiator is frankly quite a lot of them, and most of the ones on this forum. Sure, my Gobi manual Mojave is pretty rare from the factory due to the LE color and discontinued and unpopular transmission... but when you really break down what I've done to it...

According to the recalls (IIRC) the diesel sold even more poorly than the manual. Here's what cargurus has to say about what's the most rare trim among used models for sale nationwide right now:

never would have thought about this... but its really great advice. I'm sure at least a few people had to learn this lesson the hard way for that kernel of knowledge to work its way all the way down to me. Thanks!

392 6 speed? i'm in love. doubt it's wrapping up anywhere near that price though.

doesn't surprise me. the 2025s are cheaper. If you put cheaper 25s on the lot next to more expensive 24s the rebates required to sell them would be insane.

Yea, overprice things as financing rates make it harder to buy more expensive things and people stop buying. Large rebates are nice and all, but not every consumer shops MSRP-rebates, sometimes people just form a list based on the most rudimentary information, and make first round eliminations...

Family member used to be a member of the Board at Gallup. When they got bought out decades ago he got a nice little golden parachute and used it to start his own boutique market research firm. Not saying he's not biased, i'm sure he is... but whether he's biased or not, he's clearly more...

if you look at these survey results year over year, you'll notice a WILD amount of variation between years. very few mnfrs even stay in the same area of the chart from year to year. Lexus, Toyota, Porsche generally good; BMW, MB generally average; chrysler, land rover generally bad. Beyond that...

Whatever they think they can get away with. Just like how the rubicon and mojave gladiators are 8k cheaper this year with an auto than there were last year with a stick. They thought they could get away with that pricing last year... they couldn't... they learned. As for axing the manuals on...

i know the wranglers aren't as hard up as the JTs and discounts work differently on the stripper models... but if i could get 34% of a 2dr JL base sport softtop 6mt right now i'd very extremely tempted.

Jeep isn't the only one. My Bronco as reserved was 38k. With the base now axed plus all the price increases, to get the same thing today in a MY2024 model would be 53k. Insanity. Also Broncos are experiencing just as much lot rot these days as gladiators.

maybe i love tech, but just enjoy actually driving my vehicle instead of feeling like a passenger with a steering wheel? Jeep really didn't need to axe the manual. They could have just made it the same price as the automatic. It would have sold in the exact same numbers (no one was buying the...

I really don't understand the hate for the looks on this thing. It's not igniting any passions in me, but it's not really offending me either. Certainly looks less stubby than the initial renders, which is good thing as it used to look worse. The only problem I have is the pricing... It looks...

If it's stupid, they will build it They being SoFlo of course.

My original plan was to buy another manual gladiator in 2027 when i expected either the gladiator to be cancelled in 2028, or the manual to be axed for the new gen. Sort of a 'final edition" manual. Jeep has decided in their wisdom that I won't be doing that, so I guess my 2022 is hanging...