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Ditto! Mojave was not out when I ordered my Overland. I like the suspension and rear locker of the Mohave, but not so much the interior choices. Happy with My JTO.

Ah, the red rocks of Sedona.

The Rubicon is best for rock crawling and the Mojave is best for sand at speed (plus maybe pot-holed roads up north). In between those extremes, any of the other trim levels will do just fine off-road if you know what you are doing and don't try anything stupid. (Maybe those two are the same).

Looking forward to it!

I am wondering how far "out" the style department thinks. For example, the JL brought back the two-angle grille of the TJ, combined with the swerve around headlight from earlier CJs.. Will the nextgen after JL/JT emulate the mono-slope JK grille design?

Could be. Who knows? But I remember Dodge updated the Durango a year before the Dakota. Back in 2005. Might not be at all relevant.

I think only the 8.4" has GPS.

Well, as I remarked to Swampnut, I take your word for it that they are the "same", but to the unlearned, reverse and auxiliary sure don't sound like the same thing. And if "standardized", it would help if colors were, too. If the colors vary, why give colors at all? Just show position.

No need to continue. My only point was that the images with nomenclature and colors you find online are not all the same. To a neophyte, this can be confusing.

Auxiliary is the same as reverse? Red same as yellow? etc.

Right. I have a JTOMT.

Where I got it is doing what you suggested. Here are two examples. Not only are some assignments different, but so are some colors.

Didn't know oiled media filters have been around continuously. Cars in the mid-fifties had them. Every car I have owned since the sixties had disposable paper filters, which were supposed to be an improvement. That was my point.

What puzzles me, if restricted airflow is the issue (supposedly, this is why they made the grille screen with larger honeycomb than Wrangler), why does the Overland have those silver inserts that reduce the size of the seven slots ???

I did, and found there are more than one "standard". So more reason to read the Jeep manual.

When I first went into the showroom, I selected a young woman salesperson. Why? 1) I like women, and 2) Women are (usually) less agressive in selling, and 3) I figured since I knew what I wanted anyway, might as well let the newer salesperson earn the commission. First question I asked that she...

I would be defiant about it, too. ;)

Oiled media. So we have come 360. My 1956 Chevy straight six had an oiled media air cleaner..

Because not everyone needs or wants 4.10 or 4:1 or disconnect. Some do want the high-performance shocks. Now as to front locker, you got me there.

I've thought that, too. It would seem the technology exists to print one corresponding to the actual equipment in one's own Jeep. But maybe there is some advantage to FCA to print only universal manuals.. For one, the customer might decide to add a factory option after the fact after reading...