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  1. NightHawk Owners! Only 2000 of us. Join this elite thread ;)

    Jeep is sneaky. You have to read very very closely. The answer is going to be on your sticker so our opinion is of no consequence. There are some things on the nighthawk like the extra wide axles that point toward MAX Tow, but then a sport without any tow package does NOT have the extra...
  2. NightHawk Owners! Only 2000 of us. Join this elite thread ;)

    It's that little 1 that is the issue. It means "when properly equipped" as in the optional tow package. The tow package "lite" gives you the 6,000 lb max tow capability. The "Max Tow" package gets you up into the 7k plus range. Dp7 has that package as noted... I do like how that package in...
  3. Color Remorse

    Don't let my wife see it. She saw one when out camping and went nuts over that color... Very nice...
  4. Part of the elite club now!!

    You slammed that puppy?
  5. NightHawk Owners! Only 2000 of us. Join this elite thread ;)

    There may be 2000 of you, but I've got a 2023 Freedom Edition Granite Crystal that is everything but the name including the wheels AND a black Trail badge. It is totally blacked out. It had a 60,800 MSRP and I got it last December at 30% off MSRP. I actually wanted the Red version identical but...
  6. What kind of discounts are people getting on new Gladiators nowadays?

    That was a score on that now days. People don't realize what all they packed into the 24 Willys. If they had that on a 23, they would have MSRP'd them at close to 60K. I have one here locally with a 57K MSRP for 43,200 MT in Red (Willys) and a few extras I LIKE like the sprayed in bedliner...
  7. off road plus

    It's simply computer stuff. I had a Renegade and it had the "modes" for driving. It defaulted to the "auto" mode which was simply so Jeep could maximize CAFE readouts. Everyone complained about the Renegades and how they drove primarily because of Auto. But the Sand Mode made it entirely...
  8. New incentives tomorrow

    Last year was the 15% off, but apparently, they also gave incentives to the dealers and some were matching the 15% most were doing at least 19%. I got a 23 at 30% off.
  9. News: Stellantis replaces COO and CFO. Global CEO Tavares to retire early 2026

    It's about frigging time... hopefully not too late... Some good people have left, hope a couple of brand specialists at high levels consider coming back at RAM and JEEP.
  10. What kind of discounts are people getting on new Gladiators nowadays?

    The WIlly's is nothing to sneeze at in 24 vs previous years with the rear locker. They seem to knock them down pretty good to.
  11. End of year Deals... Start NOW

    I ended up getting 30% off of sticker last year (see paperwork below). I attached the deal I got on a Red Freedom Edition pretty well loaded. I did the basic deal non of the 7K extras... I expect something similar will happen this year but to be honest I have yet to see any deals like this in...
  12. Jeep brand turnaround plan announced by Stellantis CEO

    The Dodge Family wanted to buy some of it...what Dumb Azz Stellantis CEO threatened to get rid of in a fit of pique when his bad decisions began to come back and haunt him... and as a start and he in his characteristically Italian way got offended... H'e reminds me of someone and does NOT suffer...
  13. Jeep brand turnaround plan announced by Stellantis CEO

    " My 2022 Gladiator is now worth $20k less and that means my car loan repayment is way out of whack in that my insured market value in the event of a writeoff is such that im out of pocket the difference by $20k. " In the US, we call that "upside down." It is a common phenomena. What? Does Jeep...
  14. 2025 Jeep Gladiator Order Guide First Look [Updated Monthly]

    My understanding is that it is gone... along with the ordering of the full time AWD. I am glad I got it on my 23. It would have been a deal breaker for me. You have to get the X version on Rubi's and Mojave's to get it is my understanding...
  15. Hitchhiker Solo Tusca Overlanding in bed Camper

    Most people don't even know that those slots for support boards exist... The Gladiator had a lot of engineering when it was designed that you DON"T see. Other things like the extended exhaust pipe that rolls in a circle so they are both the same length helping the engine performance. And quite a...
  16. Hitchhiker Solo Tusca Overlanding in bed Camper

    Exactly... I was even thinking just one support in the middle in the back for storage underneath. Mine was conceptual you've done it. What are you putting on there now?
  17. Back Seat Headrest Removal

    You can flip em forward so they are parallel to the seat bottoms and that helps, or you can just do a seat delete.
  18. 4 Gladiators on 37's take on Montana's "hardest trail" - McKelvey Lake

    Need more rocks on those trails. With my unlifted Freedom Edition, I think I'll pass, but I love that area down there. We camp down there, mostly at Lewis and Clark Caverns for the electricity and proximity to home... Looks like fun.




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