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Wasn't my intention to judge, and sorry mine reads that way. I attempted to just give a line of why someone may look at each trim. You are right though, it does end up being judge-y.

Interesting idea. Of course chosen options will blur these lines but as for starting points, here's my input: TRIMS: Sport: want as manual/basic as possible Willy's Sport: want as manual/basic as possible, but a few physical upgrades (rails, LSD, wheels/tires) Sport S: want comfort options...

Agreed it's loud. I carry cheap in-ear plugs cause after about 20mins at 60mph+ my ears do hurt. I don't care how dumb I look. Besides that it's great. Keep legs/feet in cause rocks and bugs hurt. Drive more defensively then you normally would cause you have much less protection.

that actually exists at my dealer now, it's kinda cool but there is a part JT's can not go on without a lift as it's too high of an angle up and down. Was built in the before time of JT's. I've asked, the new Jeep only store across the street will not get it's own separate/new one though :(...

The dealership I go to is building it's own stand alone Jeep store/dealer. It's across the street but supposed to have it's own service and 100% Jeep. Supposed to be open by end of this year. I like the idea

Ah, so it just adds the extra step of the side rails. Not bad at all. Thank you

Is it true that with this installed you can not take the back top off? I've read that somewhere. I love the idea of this, but not if it means I can't take the full roof off.

Noticed this on my 21 today too. Same sound. Any new info on if it's still considered normal?

Mine was also installed from dealer on my ordered JT. They tried to add in a charge for it but before I signed anything my first question was why our agreed total was up $400. I was guessing it was taxes or something that had changed in the new year. Had a great relationship with the sales guy...

Sorry your dealership pushed you away from a Jeep. It's unfortunate how common this seems to be. I even had the same opinion from my first Jeep a few years ago. Caused more damage in a repair than it went in for. Luckily we have another in the area that is phenomenal. It really does make or...

Happens to me when it's super cold out. Also had it happen when the rear wasn't tight enough. So if it's no super cold where you live, might check the bolts. A few could use another turn tighter.

I am in agreement the price increases have greatly eroded the benefits of the Max Tow package. When I ordered and compared all equal options to a Rubi - my price difference was about $7k. I saw the value of the payload as key in my decision(we tow)**. Secondly that my off roading desire would...

That linked instrument cluster had to just be a screw up....right? In the past only the 5in screen came with the non-digital cluster. I'd be pissed too if I ordered the fancy 8.4 and got that. Do you have your build sheet with all the packages and their letter codes? Can use that to cross...

Wanted Punk'n, wasn't available when I was ready to buy.

Intentional. Mines the same way. Best guess I've read is doors off you don't want someone walking up and opening a garage.

Not that my opinion is worth much on this subject but... I debated this for while myself and ended up in 3.6 gasser. I've never owned a diesel and while I liked the way it sounded and drove - from what I found and for my life it had too many cons We go camping as often as we can and there are...

Same :CWL: but I get hung up on plants. Always need more green in the hosue

I'd say depends on use: Just need to talk to the few others in your group? it's perfect. Need to talk to the base station across the park for an emergency? No (but really only one person in your group needs this ability if it's even a thing for the park you're at) Over the last three years...

We ended up with this one after 3 of the cheeper ($30-$40) wore through in a year or less. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DQFZGZ0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share Anytime we need a person in the back, we just unhook one side and shove it out of the way, not great honestly but very rare thing for us. It...

Jay Feather Micro 166FBS, 4k dry Have yet to be able to take it on a trip but can hardly wait. Was quite a big upgrade for us from a 1979 Venture Swing Out pop Up! :LOL: Never owning a truck before, or a camper like this, I'd say the JT does decent pulling it. Max Tow with no lift, 285/70/17...