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Right. - Stock 2021's have ~2 5/8 uptravel to the metal lip - Mopar lifted 2021's have ~4.75 Interesting that 2022's have 3.25", with the same spring and shock part numbers as 2021's. How'd FCA come up with the extra .5"? Coil tower length? that was proported to be measured 1.25"...

How much lift did you actually net out on the 4.5/3.5 setup? I'm with you on not doing level 7 trails, I'll do 5 and 6's and have no problem taking the bypass on knurly obstacles on 6's.... and use my JT to tow my camper/trailer back home.

Same here... waiting 15 mos now. ... edited cause you answered part of my question.... how much lift did you actually get on your 4.5 / 3.5 lift? I'm doing the same route, ordered the 2.5 gas. They said on stock gas JTs, that normally nets 3" of lift, so it *should* still net me 2.5" in the...

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/eco-diesel-suspension-bottoming-out-on-normal-roads.39462/post-891128 @OrangeCJ posted that he got a message from RockCrawler, and they said they were a bit delayed, hope to be out with them next month, ... maybe...

RockCrawler should have one *soon*. Guys on one of the other threads on this topic recently posted an update he had from them. As with all vendors right now, *soon* has to have a COVID asterisk by it.

I like @TroutFishingInAmerica 's response. Mojave vs EcoD is really two different driving experiences, so it is more a question of what you are targeting. Mojave is better on higher speed trails with its suspension. EcoD really shines in lower speed, where torque is premium. The Pentastar...

I've come to the conclusion this is a lost cause. Last November, Jeep said they'd have a fix out in Q1. Well we are half way through, and no answer yet. And given the COVID hits on supply lines, Q1 will turn into Q3/4. They "said" it's fixed with the '22's. Well, the '22's have a...

... Since Dec 2020 for me and my JTRD, and similar use case I'm targeting. I've been waiting a long time, and now looking at second yearly trip to MOAB since getting the JT, and still waiting on a lift solution. If I'm looking at a bright side, my 100k warranty might be up by the time I...

First of all, impressive what you've illuminated on the shock tuning side relative to our spongy JT diesel woes. And we are all are either weighing/waiting on diesel lift kits. Sad to hear that feedback from Metalcloak. My suspension shop had recommended them, and he had "heard" they had a...

He posted more picks, ... looks like has at least 1" or more of space between the Sumo and the stock strike plate, so you might be able to get by with less than 1.5" spacing.

Thanks! The philosophy on these is that you want at least 1/2 or 3/4" before engaging the bump so that you have a stock ride for normal driving. Looks like you've got at least 1", so it looks like someone could get by with 1-1.25" spacers and still be good. Good to hear also that these are not...

@Suho posted his results on doing this on the other thread. https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/eco-diesel-suspension-bottoming-out-on-normal-roads.39462/post-877622 These are much longer than the stock bumps, and there's not much room in there, stock, to install them. He did it...

I've been considering these, but wondering how much spacing would be needed to accommodate the increased length of the sumo spring. Your pics really help out, so basically they'd install with a 1.5" spacer. ? Per the manufacturer, these are supposed to compress 85%, which would be right about...

You list you have a Rubicon, so apart from this bottom out issue, you would be fine going to 35's with stock suspension, no rubbing for lite wheeling. You WOULD need to watch your breakover and departure angles, but rubbing shouldn't be an issue. I don't think the dealers, nor JeepCares know...

It appears that on stock springs, '21 and '22, the spacing between the strike-plate on the axle and the metal lip of the coil retainer tower/tube has been pretty consistent at about 2.5" or so. (Ref: OP's measurements, my measurements, and 22EcoD's on stock springs) Once you put the Mopar lift...

@JeepCares With Jeep not saying anything on whats going on here, this is what I’m hypothesizing this is whats happened: Jeep prototypes the ecodiesel install on a 2019 JL, and determines there is some engine parts at risk. Mitigates by putting in an extra long bump on the first ecodiesel...

Oh... and to totally clear the air of my last brain fart... @SargeDiesel , your 3 11/16" uptravel is now with your Mopar lift, right? So that's why you've got so much uptravel vs everyone else at stock.

It looks like @CreepyJeepy used a metal ruler, rather than a standard tape measure, so he could slide it up along side the coil isolator and get it all the way to the metal part of the coil seat. I think that's a good place to measure or reference to.

Thanks for the double check. Yeah, I'm wondering same as you... did they change/move something else on the '22 EcoD's that might have been interfering with the axle travel on the '21s ? What else do we not know about?

Right, my bad, that was @22EcoDs that said his '22 Sport had the same 2.5" uptravel as OP. He also said his coil tower was at ~5.5", which appears to be 3/4" shorter that what CreepyJeepy measured on the '21. So you could compare/verify yours with 22EcoDs measurement above.