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Yeahhhh kinda. ICE numbers include VERY old vehicles where as EV numbers don't. Also, ICE catches fire when running or in an accident....EV is catching fire in your garage while you're sleeping. There is a reason why many public parking garages are banning some EV's.

The outfit that makes those is right down the street from me. I get to see them around town and in their parking lot. Level 6,000 tacky. Like, seriously the only dudes driving those are walking around with popped collars and orange spray on tans and Tapout shirts on.

Front or rear? Anyone been standing on the front?

Will do. It's in the menu on the instrument cluster display.

Looks like a straight hours on engine running meter to me. 2023 Sport (non S) max tow.

After four months of ownership I just discovered the Gladiator has an hours on engine meter. I've never had a vehicle with that feature and was surprised to learn that at 1,500 miles (only drive it on weekends) that it has 70 engine hours. That seems high to me but I guess I spend a lot of...

Yeah all this electric stuff and whatnot should do wonders for vehicle longevity.

I've always wondered how the hell such a system is supposed to work on an off road vehicle anyway. Is there a shut off? I'm always pointed at something when off-road. Do trees, rocks, thick/tall grass set it off?

"Four years from now may seem like an eternity in the automotive world, but that hasn’t stopped us from envisioning what Jeep’s next-generation Tacoma rival may look like." In other words....we just completely made up this photo which is not based on anything other than our imaginations.

Oh I'm not claiming any Jeep is without issues... just saying after having been around their entry level front wheel drive offerings (company vehicles, rentals, friend's / family's) that those things are in a class of their own low quality. I once had a company provided Compass where you could...

And I wonder how Jeep brand would rank if only Wrangler / Gladiator / Grand Cherokee results were surveyed. The total basket cases like Compass and Patriot have to drag on the score.

Taking open-wheel outlaw racing literally.

I appreciate the suggestions / links everyone. Now for the wheels to come back in stock - which is supposedly next month.

Well after a lot more searching, I guess I have to conclude that stickers will be the only option. Hopefully they hold up ok!

With or without the Jurassic Park graphics kit?

Sorry man, that's rough. If I ever do have to deal with it, I am semi-comforted that I live very close to two dealers where I can just walk right up to the service bays and be a pain in the ass.

Check out the Facebook group "JL Corrosion Information (it's not the steel bolts)" which has lots of great info, and seemingly daily posts from people bringing their JL's and JT's into dealerships for warranty work.

Please don't include me in that.

Ha however on the flip side I needed a running start to climb a parking lot curb in reverse last night.

Agreed. Last week I climbed a significant gravel incline and with the max tow LSD there was no drama in 2WD.