2 different Oem led fog lights?

[vicsvx]

Recently I got a good deal on a set of oem jl/JT oem led fog lights... But during install I wasn't sure which way to orientate the lights. The set I acquired has 2 "eye lids" vs 1 "eye lid". A Google search shows a thread Discussing the 1 eye lid proper orientation. But I have yet to find correct way for the 2 eye lid

I took the logical approach which has the letters stamped on the lens being right side up. The cutoff seems right but oddly enough I was getting flashed. Anyone have words of wisdom? Does the diode point up or down?

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[Vtur]

The wording right side up is correct. Mine 2021 came with it. Compared to the 1 lid, the beam pattern is wider.

 

[vicsvx]

OK good to know I have them installed correctly... But now out of curiosity, which options get the 2 eye lids over the 1 eye lid? Hmm

 

[Von1992]

OK good to know I have them installed correctly... But now out of curiosity, which options get the 2 eye lids over the 1 eye lid? Hmm

I noticed this too when I purchased a Mopar steel oem bumper. My factory fog led lights have one eyelid whereas the steel bumper has 2 eyelids.

all of the Jeeps on the lot with steel bumpers only have the 1 eyelid.

I guess I’ll see the difference when I install the bumper.

for reference

single eyelid:

Double eyelids:

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I noticed this too when I purchased a Mopar steel oem bumper. My factory fog led lights have one eyelid whereas the steel bumper has 2 eyelids.

all of the Jeeps on the lot with steel bumpers only have the 1 eyelid.

I guess I’ll see the difference when I install the bumper.

for reference

single eyelid:

Double eyelids:

The one in the bottom pic is up-side-down - so onlookers and lurkers know.......
Note the differences in how that top part is shaped.

Are they both LED for a fact or is one halogen and the other LED and you are comparing apples and oranges?
The ones you show all have the same mounting bracket - the Overland style bracket, not the Rubicon steel bumper type bracket. They mount differently. Steel bumper fog lights don't have the same mounting.

This is a 2022 model year factory LED lighting package LED foglight mounted properly in the factory Overland "plastic" bumper - when I pulled this bumper I left everything intact.
The 2020 I had had the same LED fog lights. (EDIT - they both have factory LED light packages, factory LED fog lights, but I now see the 2020 was different - see post below)
Both my 2020 and my 2022 had full LED light packages. Both had the factory bumper until I swapped.

 

[Von1992]

The one in the bottom pic is up-side-down - so onlookers and lurkers know.......
Note the differences in how that top part is shaped.

Are they both LED for a fact or is one halogen and the other LED and you are comparing apples and oranges?
The ones you show all have the same mounting bracket - the Overland style bracket, not the Rubicon steel bumper type bracket. They mount differently. Steel bumper fog lights don't have the same mounting.

This is a 2022 model year factory LED lighting package LED foglight mounted properly in the factory Overland "plastic" bumper - when I pulled this bumper I left everything intact.
The 2020 I had had the same LED fog lights.
Both my 2020 and my 2022 had full LED light packages. Both had the factory bumper until I swapped.

They are both LED fog lights and not halogen. I haven’t taken apart the steel bumper yet to swap tow hooks but will confirm bracket style when I do.

It’s just strange that all pictures of the steel bumper show the single eyelid but when it arrived it had the 2 eyelids.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If we can show that ALL LED fog lights that were original equipment on JTs with the STEEL bumper are one style and all LED fog lights that were original to the Overland, etc. were another, it might be because of how they sit in the bumper - those on Overland sit pretty deep in the bumper, those on Rubicon with steel bumper - not quite as far back although I haven't gone out and actually measured those that I have.

It’s just strange that all pictures of the steel bumper show the single eyelid but when it arrived it had the 2 eyelids.

The problem with pictures is we don't know what fog lights they have, or do we? Even the marketing stuff doesn't always match the text with photos. Photos are chosen for appearance and the disclaimer will say something like "when properly equipped" - that sort of thing.

 

[vicsvx]

Still interested in which packages gets you double eye lids lol

Maybe there's a difference from the jl and jt?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Good luck with that............ it looks like, looking back at pics of my 2020, which was identical in light equipment, bumpers and more - has different original fog lights than my 2022 has

Yup - these are the original LED fog lights for my 2020 - shown above in the original bumper and then below after I moved them to the steel bumper using adapter brackets.
Above and below - same factory LED fog lights for an Overland with plastic bumper.

So - my 2020 with factory LED lighting package had only the top cutoff on the foglights, the 2022 has the top cutoff and a bottom "shade".
Same truck, same level (Overland) same bumper, same LED light packages, both LED foglights, but one has only the top light cutoff, not the bottom like the 2022 has.

 

[Von1992]

I just checked my steel bumper I have yet to put on and the brackets on the fog lights are different.
I’m assuming depending on where the bumper is assembled, different LED fog lights will be used. That is my only assumption as my friend who works in a service dept at a dealership stated that parts get swapped out quite a bit and for no reason.

Same truck, same level (Overland) same bumper, same LED light packages, both LED foglights, but one has only the top light cutoff, not the bottom like the 2022 has.

Did you notice any difference on how the fog lights reflected due to the different styles?

 

[vicsvx]

The brackets are dependant on the trim and bumper (steel vs plastic) ect

But that's not the topic...It's the eye lids

I just checked my steel bumper I have yet to put on and the brackets on the fog lights are different.
I’m assuming depending on where the bumper is assembled, different LED fog lights will be used. That is my only assumption as my friend who works in a service dept at a dealership stated that parts get swapped out quite a bit and for no reason.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

as my friend who works in a service dept at a dealership stated that parts get swapped out quite a bit and for no reason.

LOL - the old belief that it's random - and not due to supply issues, manufacturing issues, changes/updates/improvements and so on. There's always a reason and no, they don't willy-nilly grab or order.

I’m assuming depending on where the bumper is assembled, different LED fog lights will be used.

The bumpers aren't delivered to Jeep with the fog lights in them.

It's going to be either a running change to meet certain specs, or a supplier change - fog light supplier.
Since it's a change to the light pattern, it's possible they have made a change to make them compliant for all markets.

But there's nothing random and there's always a reason for a change. They MUST track all such things. They are an ISO company selling to EU and other markets. Lighting patterns and rules are established by the government of each market so it's most likely a running change of some sort.
There's so few facts - but so much speculation and guessing.

What no one has done yet is to show what version was on the 2020 model year vs. 2021 and 2022.
I have shown that my 2020 has only the top shade to cut off the light from the top, the 2022 has a lower feature as well.
All others are secondary market - what was bought with a take-off bumper or whatever.
We have no real idea of the model year or build date those lights came on.

 

[Von1992]

I’m going to dig into this further and see why some LEDs are different. I’ll come back with any information I find.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I’m going to dig into this further and see why some LEDs are different. I’ll come back with any information I find.

Since I found a difference between two different YEARS, otherwise identical trucks in every way, I'd be interested in that pattern - running change?
Both were Overland, both had the same bumpers, both were ordered by me to have full factory LED lighting, all of the safety equipment/packages, everything was the same except windshield and transfer case. Even the color was the same.
So it wasn't a difference between models or bumpers or any packages in my case.

 

[Von1992]

Okay, after doing a bit more research I confirmed with my local dealership that it was a change done on the model year 2022. Which explains why your new gladiator had them.

The fog lights with the 2 shades/covers are the newer led fog lights.

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