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I hope you're not disappointed by the overland. Have you owned other solid axle jeeps before? We have a JKU Sahara Wrangler 75th and a Rubicon JT. The Sahara doesn't really ride any better than the JT. Both ride better than the TJ we used to have.

My order of comfort from least to most comfortable, from the jeeps we've owned:
'97 TJ 4.0 sport < '16 jku 75th < '21 JTR. When I was on the factory mud tires, the order was reversed, the JKU was better on the road than the JTR. I know it's previous generation, but I normally consider Saharas as equivalent to overlands.

So, maybe try some different tires before switching out? The tires I run now are a compromise between off-road and on road comfort, because I do need off-road traction when we do wheel, but most of my miles these days are on the road (unfortunately). So I run a comfortable AT with still decent off-road traction.

If you're more street oriented, try a milder AT or even a highway tread if you're all street
The overland is much more comfortable and the all season tires and non lift definitely help with that, it’s the most cushy of all the trims that and the sport since they’re basically the same suspension wise. I owned a Rubicon gladiator before this one and it actually rode better as well as a JL wrangler that even rode better.
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I hope you're not disappointed by the overland. Have you owned other solid axle jeeps before? We have a JKU Sahara Wrangler 75th and a Rubicon JT. The Sahara doesn't really ride any better than the JT. Both ride better than the TJ we used to have.

My order of comfort from least to most comfortable, from the jeeps we've owned:
'97 TJ 4.0 sport < '16 jku 75th < '21 JTR. When I was on the factory mud tires, the order was reversed, the JKU was better on the road than the JTR. I know it's previous generation, but I normally consider Saharas as equivalent to overlands.

So, maybe try some different tires before switching out? The tires I run now are a compromise between off-road and on road comfort, because I do need off-road traction when we do wheel, but most of my miles these days are on the road (unfortunately). So I run a comfortable AT with still decent off-road traction.

If you're more street oriented, try a milder AT or even a highway tread if you're all street
AT will never ride as well as an all season tire
 

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The Mohave I had the privilege of riding in, at high speeds off road, was easily the most comfortable Jeep I’ve been in to date.
Then you haven’t rode in the sport s or overland because they definitely ride much better
 

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Thanks, man! I’m just trading it off for an overland, I think I’ll be much happier with less of a lift and cushy ride
Good luck! Maybe a Jeep isn’t for you.
Then you haven’t rode in the sport s or overland because they definitely ride much better
No offense meant here, but perhaps a Jeep Gladiator is not the best vehicle for you. You’ve had a Rubicon and now Mojave and trading it for an Overland in search of a better ride. I love my Gladiator but not for it’s comfort and cushy ride because those characteristics don’t exist IMO.
 

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Good luck! Maybe a Jeep isn’t for you.

No offense meant here, but perhaps a Jeep Gladiator is not the best vehicle for you. You’ve had a Rubicon and now Mojave and trading it for an Overland in search of a better ride. I love my Gladiator but not for it’s comfort and cushy ride because those characteristics don’t exist IMO.
They do in an overland because it’s not lifted nor does it have the aggressive ATs
 

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This is all wonderful info and exactly what I was hoping for. The rubi she is eyeing is a 6 speed so I know some towing is lowered a bit but I think we are well below the threshold for it not to be an issue


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This is kinda what we are thinking travel trailer wise, but some of these overland trailers that are more designed for actually taking with you into the wilderness vs parking at a campsite also look interesting for similar ish price point. This will be our first endeavor with a travel trailer so all info is good info. Thanks
I’ve seen tons of written and video reviews indicating one of the major highlights of the JL/JT platform has been the addition of the 8 speed that is mated to the 3.6L motor. The 6-speed has had its own issues and of course will yield a lower trade value when the time comes.
 

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I am wondering if the Rubicon is the best option for both small travel trailer hauling and playing on the trails/mud. Thinking about pulling the trigger on a purchase just dont want to find out after, that a different trim would have been a better all around choice. Thanks
I have a 2021 Diesel Rubicon. It's got Nitto Ridge Grapler 37s and the Clayton 2.5" lift with the Fox 2.5 Performance Elite shocks. No leveling kit on it. Drives like a dream. I tow a 2022 Apex Ultra-Lite 245BHS (100% FL driving) and have zero problems. I do stiffen the rear fox shocks and I have a E2 Equalizer sway/weight distribution hitch (HIGHLY RECOMMEND). The trailer is 27.5FT overall and 4750lbs dry weight. The diesel rubicon trim can tow 6k FYI and it definetly pulls the weight better than the 3.6 counter part. I generally get between 12-15mpg when towing it too (I don't go over 65mph). Also, get a trailer brake controller.

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The overland has a lower towing capacity than both. The rubicon is 7,000, only 650 less than the max tow sport s. The rubicon is comfortable and has has all the creature comforts you can get with an overland. It then has front and rear lockers, 4:1 low range, swaybar disconnect, off road plus mode, and more. Whenever one of these rubicon vs not rubicon threads starts, the owners of non rubicons come out to say rubicons aren’t necessary. Let’s be honest. It’s the perfect trim for someone that wants to off road, and tow. It just is. The difference between the 4:1 low range and the one in the sports and overlands is night and day.
If you want to Rock Crawl then I agree, but as a general off road vehicle I disagree. Get a Max Tow with 4:10 Gears and limited slip rear diff. Spend $150 on sway bar disconnect and put in a front locker. 1.5 inch leveling kit with bumper/winch. Upgrade tires. You then have an awesome set up for on and off road and you don't have that butt ugly red dash and you'll still be money ahead for what the Rubicon package costs.
 

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If you want to Rock Crawl then I agree, but as a general off road vehicle I disagree. Get a Max Tow with 4:10 Gears and limited slip rear diff. Spend $150 on sway bar disconnect and put in a front locker. 1.5 inch leveling kit with bumper/winch. Upgrade tires. You then have an awesome set up for on and off road and you don't have that butt ugly red dash and you'll still be money ahead for what the Rubicon package costs.
The problem is you’ve just spent enough to have gotten a rubicon, and you still won’t have a 4:1 low range transfer case, off road plus, etc. and a leveling kit doesn’t articulate nearly as well as full springs. The dash color is irrelevant.
 

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If you want to Rock Crawl then I agree, but as a general off road vehicle I disagree. Get a Max Tow with 4:10 Gears and limited slip rear diff. Spend $150 on sway bar disconnect and put in a front locker. 1.5 inch leveling kit with bumper/winch. Upgrade tires. You then have an awesome set up for on and off road and you don't have that butt ugly red dash and you'll still be money ahead for what the Rubicon package costs.
All Rubicons don't have a red dash. Mine doesn't, not that I'd mind if I did. Also, unless you can install all that stuff yourself (other than the leveling kit and manual disconnect, I can't), the cost savings aren't much, if anything, after factoring parts, labor, and warranty.

Base Sport S Max Tow -$45170
Base Rubicon Manual - 49,620
Base Rubicon Auto - $51620

That's not much difference, considering the cost of the lockers and whatever else you add. Nothing wrong with building your own if you dont like the factory options, or you just want to. But I don't think it's cheaper.
 

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The problem is you’ve just spent enough to have gotten a rubicon, and you still won’t have a 4:1 low range transfer case, off road plus, etc. and a leveling kit doesn’t articulate nearly as well as full springs. The dash color is irrelevant.
The 4:1 T Case in the Rubicon is designed for Rock Crawling period. The regular T Case is great for anything else. I'm amazed at the amount of travel my Max Tow springs have, and the leveling kit did just that it leveled it out. The Rubicon package is insanely expensive compared to just modding out a Max Tow. The Max Tow is easily the best bang for your buck and yes you'll be money ahead by modding it out over the Rubicon package.

And Yes, the red dash is butt ugly.
 

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I have a 2021 Diesel Rubicon. It's got Nitto Ridge Grapler 37s and the Clayton 2.5" lift with the Fox 2.5 Performance Elite shocks. No leveling kit on it. Drives like a dream. I tow a 2022 Apex Ultra-Lite 245BHS (100% FL driving) and have zero problems. I do stiffen the rear fox shocks and I have a E2 Equalizer sway/weight distribution hitch (HIGHLY RECOMMEND). The trailer is 27.5FT overall and 4750lbs dry weight. The diesel rubicon trim can tow 6k FYI and it definetly pulls the weight better than the 3.6 counter part. I generally get between 12-15mpg when towing it too (I don't go over 65mph). Also, get a trailer brake controller.

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Guarantee it doesn’t ride as nice as the overland with no life and all-season tires, anyone that says otherwise is in denial.
 

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All Rubicons don't have a red dash. Mine doesn't. Also, unless you can install all that stuff yourself (other than the leveling kit and manual disconnect, I can't), the cost savings aren't much, if anything, after factoring parts, labor, and warranty.

Base Sport S Max Tow -$45170
Base Rubicon Manual - 48025
Base Rubicon Auto - $50,025

That's not much.
Option them out with comparable options and it is around a $7 grand difference.
 

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Option them out with comparable options and it is around a $7 grand difference.
Those were the prices with comparable options. Options don't cost more on the Rubicon. If it's not standard on the Rubicon (much of it is), the options cost the same, so the difference is the same. My Rubicon, which is a 2021, was well under $50k, by a good bit. Mine is manual, but even with the auto, it'd have been under $50k.
 

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Those were the prices with comparable options. Options don't cost more on the Rubicon. If it's not standard on the Rubicon (much of it is), the options cost the same, so the difference is the same. My Rubicon, which is a 2021, was well under $50k, by a good bit. Mine is manual, but even with the auto, it'd have been under $50k.
What color is yours? All the ones I’ve seen have a red dash.
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