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I am not entirely sure how lemon law works in NJ.. I read it and it seems like they only refund your money, I am unsure what that means, and it says if they cant fix it in reasonable time (what is reasonable time)
To qualify for relief under the Lemon Law, the defect must substantially impair the use, value or safety of your vehicle, or be a “serious safety defect” which is likely to cause death or serious bodily injury if the vehicle is driven.​
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Before you can file a claim under the Lemon Law, you must give the manufacturer one final opportunity to repair the defect. A letter to the manufacturer (not the dealer) must be sent by certified mail, return receipt requested, stating that you may have a claim and that you are giving the manufacturer one last chance to repair the defect. See page 8 for a sample letter that we strongly recommend that you use.​
The certified letter may be sent only after you have had at least two repair attempts for the same defect, or 20 cumulative days out of service for one or more defects​

Sounds like they need to make 2 attempts (this is attempt #1). If they return it to you unfixed, they have a second try. If after that it is not fixed... you start the lemon law process and they are offered one last 3rd attempt. There is also a qualifying event of 20 days in shop.
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Update Positive

STAR case was opened

Dealer was instructed to lift the truck and put the truck in drive.

The vibration was loud and apparent. TRANSFER CASE is the blame...

So next step is to isolate the transfer case and replace or something along those lines...

at least we are getting somewhere.

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Update Positive

STAR case was opened

Dealer was instructed to lift the truck and put the truck in drive.

The vibration was loud and apparent. TRANSFER CASE is the blame...

So next step is to isolate the transfer case and replace or something along those lines...

at least we are getting somewhere.

steve
You are freakin' kidding me. STAR had to suggest that to the shop?

That was a common thing for us to do depending on the vibration - if a test drive didn't narrow down some weird things. You can watch a lot when it's on a lift and the wheels are turning.
Those of us with longer hair had to be watchful and not get our heads to close to driveshafts and such, but you could see a lot, and you could hear the sounds and try to synchronize then with the moving parts.
It's amazing how many don't do the basic stuff any more.
 

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Worth your time.
I noted the linkage moving just ahead of engine movement in his later playing of the clip.

This happens in Fords, other Jeeps with V8s and I6s. It's a pure suspension and steering issue.
This has been researched to death - he's not onto something otherwise only the 3.6 equipped Jeeps would do this.

DW goes back into the 50s , at least the 60s. It's been reported on many makes of vehicles with that design front end. It's happened with the 360 engine and their near 45 degree mounts, it's happened with the 4.0, the 258, and other engines.
I'd like to see how he explains an engine wobble, - engine that in no way is connected to the front suspension or steering, is causing the tires to "wobble".

I've posted many times quotes from suspension design engineers and experts - I'd expect them to have resolved this if it was engine shake, and I'd expect it to be isolated to only 3.6 engines.
 

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Chicken, egg. The forces of the engine moving like that cannot be good for overall stability.
Which thing started first?
I guess we'll need to ask those brilliant engineers who haven't fixed the problem in all of these years ?
 

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Chicken, egg. The forces of the engine moving like that cannot be good for overall stability.
Which thing started first?
I guess we'll need to ask those brilliant engineers who haven't fixed the problem in all of these years ?
The engine isn't going to cause the wheels to go into a major shimmy, which is technically what DW is. The wheels are oscillating left and right.
I go back to - if it's engine mounts, then why would a 1980 Jeep do this? Why would a 1995 Ford do it?

Anyway, there are many threads on the DW topic - in this case it's nothing to do with DW, but people see or read vibrations and then it's all connected.

This poor fellow apparently has a really weird vibration or shake - transfer case? That would be weird. Not impossible, but weird. Other than driveshaft, there's not a lot there to cause a shake or vibration.
 

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Yeah. He already said it's not DW.
I thought you just wanted to talk about the video some.
 
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No updates today... I guess they didn't work on it or maybe the new transfer case didn't come in?
 
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Sunday was Sunday so no updates.

Monday - nothing... they tried to call a few times and wrote an email... amazing
 

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Got the truck back from jeep today all fixed..... lol sike!

Still making the noise...

Replaced the transfer case. And techs test drove it all good they said. I drive it 5 min down the road and turn around.

I have called jeep customer care and started the buyback process hopefully it works out. Super annoyed.

After lots a reading on the line it seems that wranglers and gladiators have this issue a lot.
 

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Got the truck back from jeep today all fixed..... lol sike!

Still making the noise...

Replaced the transfer case. And techs test drove it all good they said. I drive it 5 min down the road and turn around.

I have called jeep customer care and started the buyback process hopefully it works out. Super annoyed.

After lots a reading on the line it seems that wranglers and gladiators have this issue a lot.
Where in Jersey are you? Idk how far away from Swedesboro, but I’d love for you to come bring this in so we can get this fixed for you (from a tech, who isn’t going suspect your panels lol)
 
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Where in Jersey are you? Idk how far away from Swedesboro, but I’d love for you to come bring this in so we can get this fixed for you (from a tech, who isn’t going suspect your panels lol)
PMing you.
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