2025 Mojave X

[Anchovypizza]

I just looked at 3 2025 Mojave window stickers and confirmed that the X package is 10K and SelecTrac is not listed on the window sticker as part of the package like it was in 2024.

https://www.jeep-gladiator-buyersguide.com/

Shows it under the X-Package on the brochure. Not sure if that’s proof enough.

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[ShadowsPapa]

https://www.jeep-gladiator-buyersguide.com/

Shows it under the X-Package on the brochure. Not sure if that’s proof enough.

There it is - hmmmm.
Interesting. Well, then mine should have it. The build sheet site will not work with 2025 model VINs, and the window stickers don't show it.

But - this is pretty clear - and along with all of the photos I've got of the Jeeps on lots (at least a dozen, this states it pretty clearly.

 

[Vetterestorer]

The X package was 10K in 2024 and it is 10K in 2025. Odd that SelecTrac is not listed on the 2025 window sticker like it was in 2024. I'm sure someone will come along and clear-up the mystery.

 

[RHINO79]

Sounds like a solid deal

 

[Mr Miami]

OTD does not mean anything to most people as everybody has different trade in, down payment and tax differences.

How much off base MSRP you purchasing it for before all else is added in?

I take exception to your comment of "OTD does not mean anything to most people..." Maybe to a certain degree that is true in the sense that they are looking at the purchase price before the additions (dealer fees, taxes, registration, etc.). Personally, I look at the OTD price since that equates to the OTW price (Out The Wallet). How dealers want to play games and the shell game with what goes on what line is of no concern to me. I tell the dealer that up front. We speak "my" language when I buy, not the dealers. As soon as things are added, fine, just take if off the purchase price. Charge me 10k dealer fee if you wish, just take it off the purchase price. My OTD price on my '24 JT was just over 44k with an MSRP of 66k, slightly over 33% discount OTD. How the dealer came up with the details was of little interest to me, just the hit on my wallet.

With the exception of some States that don't charge sales tax (i.e. Delaware), lower sales taxes often mean higher registration feels. The States want to get their money somehow. In actual required taxes and fees, there typically is not a huge difference between States.

 

[Hootbro]

I take exception to your comment of "OTD does not mean anything to most people..."

That why I said "most" and not "all" people.

When people do not line item out their OTD price and then ask people on a forum from all four corners of the USA and even Canada if they got a good deal, how are we suppose to figure that out not knowing the negotiated base vehicle pricing?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I take exception to your comment of "OTD does not mean anything to most people..." Maybe to a certain degree that is true in the sense that they are looking at the purchase price before the additions (dealer fees, taxes, registration, etc.). Personally, I look at the OTD price since that equates to the OTW price (Out The Wallet). How dealers want to play games and the shell game with what goes on what line is of no concern to me. I tell the dealer that up front. We speak "my" language when I buy, not the dealers. As soon as things are added, fine, just take if off the purchase price. Charge me 10k dealer fee if you wish, just take it off the purchase price. My OTD price on my '24 JT was just over 44k with an MSRP of 66k, slightly over 33% discount OTD. How the dealer came up with the details was of little interest to me, just the hit on my wallet.

Why take exception? It's TRUE. You and most forum members do not represent the majority of car/truck/SUV buyers. I'd bet 3/4 of all Jeep buyers have no clue what OTD means, or even exactly how it should be figured.
Forum members are exceptions, not rules, to all things Jeep. But they get the idea they actually represent the masses. They do not, not even close.
Look at the total numbers of JTs sold vs. the active members here - and there's a lot of people even here who are learning today what OTD means.

We need to stop assuming that we represent the true buying public - it's not even close..

The dealerships around here have not only survived, but thrived as MSRP-only dealers. They don't offer discounts like others do. People come in, buy off the lot, dicker a bit on their trade price, try to get some stuff thrown in, and walk away happy. They don't even leave their buying area to look.

 

[Vetterestorer]

Does that mean that you got a 66K JT Rubicon for about 38K prior to tax and license? That is a massive 42% discount before tax and license. Congratulations, that is the best deal I have heard of on a 2024.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

In actual required taxes and fees, there typically is not a huge difference between States.

Iowans would disagree LOL.
We are among the highest taxed states in the union.
The document fees are limited, that's set in law, no dealer can deviate from that.
The "sales tax" is on the vehicle price minus the price of your trade, plus the price of add-ons from the dealer.
if you don't have a trade, your tax is based on the price you pay for the vehicle plus any stuff like accessories, body or interior treatments and so on (which a lot of people actually go for, believe it or not)
This is a state where you'd better do your math before deciding it's better to sell your trade privately than to trade it in for less money. You might get 3 grand more by selling it, but make up almost that full amount in taxes.
Not only is the sales tax crazy, the registration fees between our two Jeeps is over a grand a year. They sock it to you that way, too.
so you pay the sales tax, AND get hammered on license fees. Two Jeeps - over $1,000/year. (I think it's closer to $1,100/year, actually)

On the other hand - our interstate highways and many other roads are decent, and we have a rule here that every-other road in the counties is a "farm to market" road with hard surface, not gravel/rock.
Pros and cons to any place you live, it's all personal choices, and your personal situations. We like to judge on how much a person paid for something if we "got a better deal" but isn't it really up to them and only them???

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Does that mean that you got a 66K JT Rubicon for about 38K prior to tax and license? That is a massive 42% discount before tax and license. Congratulations, that is the best deal I have heard of on a 2024.

My sales guy and I have gone back and forth on FWP and other numbers - when FCA cut the prices for the 2025s compared to the 24s, it came right off the top of the dealer's take. The factory still charges them the same price. It's hurting dealers but they are hoping to make it up in volume, and they aren't stocking squat for Gladiators or Wranglers on the lots other than the lower cost models. They can't afford to.
According to "Jeep's web site" there are only 62 2025 Gladiators within 100 miles - that's a circle 200 miles across, and encompasses a number of dealers.
He got a bit more up-front when I showed him the numbers I had, including FWP and so on......... he knew there was no more hiding it. But I noticed he had us sit well out of ear-shot of any of the other sales guys there, including his boss. Hmmm.......

 

[Vetterestorer]

The SF Bay area has cities with sales tax well over 9% (State plus local taxes are combined) and in California all trucks are registered as commercial vehicles at a much higher rate. So, it really isn't a fair comparison. Also, the registration and sales tax have nothing to do with the window sticker or the dealer. I always negotiate off the window sticker without tax and registration and found this forum a great asset during the process because folks posted discounts prior to tax and registration. So, it was a true apples to apples comparison without variables by State and/or City. It was very beneficial knowing the deals others got....

I don't disagree with negotiating a out the door price. Obviously, it worked for you with the largest discount I have seen on a 2024. I'm just saying that it is more helpful for me as a forum member to keep the dealer separate from the State fees...

YMMV

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I always negotiate off the window sticker without tax and registration

Bingo (at least, IMO)

 

[heretic]

Wait there are Gladiator's on the your stealership lots! WOW

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Wait there are Gladiator's on the your stealership lots! WOW

1 used, a 2022, 9 new, none with the X package. (I should have looked to see if they were on the lot or in transit - last I was there, I only saw 3 on the lot)

Next closest dealer has two new 2025s - a Rubicon and a Nighthawk - nothing else.

 

[Vetterestorer]

when FCA cut the prices for the 2025s compared to the 24s, it came right off the top of the dealer's take

If the dealers are on a tight leash, I wonder what is going to happen with the tariffs? The Gladiator seems to be about 70% USA. So, a 45K Gladiator would have a $3,375 price increase with a 25% tariff on 30% of the vehicle.

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