AEV Jack Base Slid Out From Under While Jacked

[XraytecH]

Here is the approved lifting points.

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[GladiatorPilot23]

This is what I use/carry
https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/jacks-jack-stands/off-road/3-ton-off-road-jack-59136.html

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Many people like a bottle jack for smaller space used in the bed, but I prefer the extra stability from the off road jack.

Thanks you I have seen that Jack and another one similar to it, but it takes up so much space and added weight. I was hoping to use the AEV. Is there no hope for it? I love that it just fits underneath the rear seat and the Jack as well.

 

[GladiatorPilot23]

The floor looks pretty smooth/slick. Prob wouldn’t take much of being off center for it to want to scoot under all that weight. But in general, the set up you have pictured gives me anxiety. Personally wouldn’t count on that in any situation. Factory jack is not great, and that base would be hard to keep perfectly level I’d think, but never used it myself.

You’re right. Only on a street maybe and level dirt I guess. I don’t know what’s lightweight compact that can be used. I’ve seen an off-road bottle jack.

 

[GladiatorPilot23]

The jack appears to be pressing on the end of the control arm. As you raise the vehicle this end of the control arm rotates, and wants to roll off of the top of the jack. Use the axle tubes instead.

Yeah, I feel so dumb lol I was thinking the curvature of the jack and the low point would be perfect right there for just a little raising. I didn’t think it through foolishly. First time ever that has happened to me over 40 years. I’ve never had anything fall off before thank God the tire was still on as I was waiting, and I would never go under it with that jack though.

 

[GladiatorPilot23]

Here is the approved lifting points.

This ^ never jack under a pivot. It's kind of an easy mistake to make if you're used to an independent suspension vehicle, the axle tube is much lower to the ground anyway.

You’re right this is my only solid axle vehicle. Most of my other cars are sports cars. I saw the curvature on the jack and I’m like hey let’s put it here lol but the axle was the right spot now I know.

 

[GladiatorPilot23]

My son's 22 year old factory scissors jack failed on his 2003 S10 crew cab pick up last fall. I wasn't there and my assumption is he was jacking it at the wrong location and most likely over extended it when he was changing a flat tire. Things can go south quickly. My son was lucky too as the tire wasn't fully off the axle when it failed and no damage was done.

Glad you suffered no damage to the Gladiator.

Wow, thank God for both of us.

 

[professorkx]

5 ton bottle jack with a 1/2 piece of DOM tubing welded to the top to cradle the axle while jacking. With the DOM tubing, you can get away with a pretty unstable base built out of rocks to get the tire off the ground far enough to change it…although not preferred to change on an unstable surface…but sometimes you have to play the cards you are dealt.

I ripped two side walls on my BFG tires and had to change them rock crawling before switching to Baja Boss tire…that seem to have a much tougher sidewall…

 

[Minty JL]

Time to invest in a legit floor jack

 

[bd100]

Floor jacks have a problem trying to fit on the passenger front axle where only a narrow piece of axle tube is accessible. Anyone know of a pad or such to fit onto the floor jack to reach up into that narrow space like the stock scissor jack can? Something like the bottle jack adapters, but for the floor jack.

 

[OldButStillJeeping]

Scary stuff. We all learn it and usually we survive. Some don't.

Scissor jacks are for a last-ditch emergency. Throw it away or sell it. Get a 3 TON bottle jack for inside the JT, and a floor jack for use at home. Carry a 12" x 12" piece of 5/8" plywood (or thicker) as a base for your bottle jack inside of the JT. Or 2 or 3 pieces of it, even better. Get 3/4" ply if you can.

If you need to jack it up roadside, DON'T DO IT. Get off of the road as far as possible. Seen too many deaths by tire changes on the shoulder of a highway. Drivers focus on your disabled vehicle and if they are even a little drunk or a little Asian or elderly, they may hit you and or your vehicle. (The Asian and elderly bit is a joke).



Jack it up using anything solid on the frame that does not move with your suspension. A spot on your axle tube, etc. Even using the control arm welded mounts is good but only in a pinch. But not the actual control arm itself.

If you are not mechanically savvy, call your insurance company or AAA for tire changes on the road.

If you are not mechanically savvy don't lift your JT or any vehicle at home in your driveway for tire changes, lift kits or anything. Hire a pro or a mechanic friend.

I am glad that you survived.

Be Safe. Be Well. Jeep on.

Eric

 

[GladiatorPilot23]

Time to invest in a legit floor jack

I have a floor jack, I was trying out this base with the oem one to see how it does. Now looking for an offroad one small portable, lightweight.

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

Floor jacks have a problem trying to fit on the passenger front axle where only a narrow piece of axle tube is accessible. Anyone know of a pad or such to fit onto the floor jack to reach up into that narrow space like the stock scissor jack can? Something like the bottle jack adapters, but for the floor jack.

I have a 6" piece of 2x6 that I keep on the head of my floor jack. When I am lifting the front I just put it right under the differential, works like a charm. Lift it, put jackstands under the tubes, done.

 

[ConqSoft]

I don’t do any serious off-roading so I just keep one of these in the Jeep to use with my bottle jack. Compact, and dual purpose.

https://a.co/d/9aAXb3O

 

[RacerAV]

I figured I made a mistake so that’s what caused the slipping?

Probably the rotation of that lower control arm, as the jeep went up, that arm went downward, spinning it in the top "cradle" of that jack, making the jack want to move away from the arm, or at least rotate it forward at the top, but the bottom is stuck in the AEV deal, so it just tilts.

 

[Deleted member 52902]

Under an axle tube would be far better. However, scissor jacks make me nervous in all cases. When you're at home, you should really invest in a floor jack. Four wheels distributed on their long frame PLUS a typically 4+ inch, cupped plate that you could have used where you tried your scissor jack without danger. That said, you should still jack from the axle tube. there are a few other places that these jacks can be placed and used with great safety but let's just go with the axle tube and a floor jack. Parking brake set, or at least for the tires still on the ground, blocked to prevent any roll.

For one point of use on a Gladiator, a 1.5-ton (3,000 lbs.) floor jack will work. Spend a little more for a 3-ton (6,000 lb) jack and enjoy its additional ease to lift. Plus, it might be a jack you'll need later if a full-size pickup truck you might have or get, needs a lift too. Added benefit of a floor jack is that after you have the cup plate positioned for lifting, your entire body is not under the vehicler while pumping its long handle. Check the plate position just at the time it meets the surface you're using to lift, in case you need to re-center the cup-plate once more before you do the actual lift.

And jack stands. In case the hydraulic has a failure. Or someone turns the lift-jack's handle counterclockwise while some part of you are under the vehicle. Not likely but...

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