Any reason not to install nutserts in bed floor?

[Flyin6]

I did a couple of years ago.
I pulled a few nut-serts in part of the bed where I chose to secure the lithium batteries.
Granted, they are only securing perhaps 30 pounds, but concur with shadows..., reinforce if you plan to restrain more weight.
Here's another consideration I learned from flying Chinooks and other things. When we load cargo, we restrain it to 2G's or more, depending on the axis. Why? Well, that 200 lb dirt bike weighs 600-1000 pounds when you suddenly hit a pine tree while rolling down a hill. A typical accident can expose you to many "G's" of force. Each successive "G" is equal to a 100% increase in the weight of an object.
A fighter pilot's head, weighing, say, 20 pounds (Thick head if he's a Marine ;-) when he rips the wings off in an 8-G turn, has his koggin weighing 160 lbs. Easily manageable for an Army pilot, but questionable for other services. ;-)

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[ShadowsPapa]

I did a couple of years ago.
I pulled a few nut-serts in part of the bed where I chose to secure the lithium batteries.
Granted, they are only securing perhaps 30 pounds, but concur with shadows..., reinforce if you plan to restrain more weight.
Here's another consideration I learned from flying Chinooks and other things. When we load cargo, we restrain it to 2G's or more, depending on the axis. Why? Well, that 200 lb dirt bike weighs 600-1000 pounds when you suddenly hit a pine tree while rolling down a hill. A typical accident can expose you to many "G's" of force. Each successive "G" is equal to a 100% increase in the weight of an object.
A fighter pilot's head, weighing, say, 20 pounds (Thick head if he's a Marine ;-) when he rips the wings off in an 8-G turn, has his koggin weighing 160 lbs. Easily manageable for an Army pilot, but questionable for other services. ;-)

Must be fun sitting next to you at an Army/Navy game.

 

[Blade1668]

I did a couple of years ago.
I pulled a few nut-serts in part of the bed where I chose to secure the lithium batteries.
Granted, they are only securing perhaps 30 pounds, but concur with shadows..., reinforce if you plan to restrain more weight.
Here's another consideration I learned from flying Chinooks and other things. When we load cargo, we restrain it to 2G's or more, depending on the axis. Why? Well, that 200 lb dirt bike weighs 600-1000 pounds when you suddenly hit a pine tree while rolling down a hill. A typical accident can expose you to many "G's" of force. Each successive "G" is equal to a 100% increase in the weight of an object.
A fighter pilot's head, weighing, say, 20 pounds (Thick head if he's a Marine ;-) when he rips the wings off in an 8-G turn, has his koggin weighing 160 lbs. Easily manageable for an Army pilot, but questionable for other services. ;-)

Yeah, on a flight out a BAP the airforce pilot was training for a space launch some might had to do with countermeasures going off... flares and chaff for the "ground fireworks".
Nothing more exciting as flying nap of the earth in a UH-1 setting on the floor with rucksack and gear with several close buddies. The Blackhawks didn't feel as quite as intense most of the time. Now the C-47 ride out to BAP was a pucker up. My driver was why are you setting on your vest. Then his next question why are they shooting, my response you see them green/ white balls of light flying between us and following aircraft, That's tracers.
"Someone who was watching a movie with noise canceling headphones a few days before though a mortar attack" now the tent has holes though it. Must have been close to burnout, well over 12 months running missions daily. Twenty one years later, I still miss a lot of it. Walking away after having truck blown up and other crazy things.
My last deployment was a train wreck of a unit. I was safer with the Iraqis than the unit I was deployed with.

Oh crap yeah this is about nut-serts, I bought a installation tool and nut-serts for that in my Gladiator. A backer for this is a good idea to do. With concern about pull strength/ stress and shearing force. You want to think about holding it upside down and shaking it or rolling over several times and holding everything in place. A lesson I got 3 times first from SFC Davis a 88M, then in air loading of A.A. course, and air load planning course by Airforce. Rail loading is beyond believable on securing vehicles to railcars.

 

[smlobx]

I installed nut seats in the lower grooves of the bed and then installed seat tracks like you see in an airplane. These tracks are now flush with the top of the ribs of the bed so no loss of ability.

These tracks allow me to install moveable rings to secure various components of my overlanding set up like fridge, lithium battery, propane tank etc.

The track helps dissipate the load over a broader area and I have had zero issues with it.

 

[Snowcavemike]

I'm looking at installing nutserts on the elevated ribs of the JT bed floor. I would use these as mounting points for a bed storage system (similar to the goose gear bed plate). Any reason I shouldn't?

I built my drawer system with Rivnuts. My Gladiator has been up to the Artic Ocean twice with 60,000 towed and driving Miles. No issues at all. Those Alaskan and Canadian roads put your rig through the ringer. Real happy with my rivnuts.

 

[Freems]

BTW, it might be worthwhile to buy a "drill bit stopper collar" to ensure you don't punch through too deeply.

A piece of duct tape on the drill bit also works well as a depth gauge.

 

[Lost1wing]

I thought about nutserts when I installed my fridge slide. I ended using stainless bolts and nuts. I was able to pick up a crossmember of the bed at the rear and another about two feet from the front of the bed. I still used large stainless washers underneath to spread the load. I put a little rtv on the exposed threads to make it difficult for me to take off one day.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

A piece of duct tape on the drill bit also works well as a depth gauge.

Unless it's August in Iowa, 99 degrees, 99% humidity, and you break through the box wall and the tape slips on the bit. I'd rather forget how I know. Whatever you use has to be strong enough to stop the force of a 200 pound guy pushing on a drill bit as it goes through aluminum, breaks through, and it has to stop the momentum of all of that.
Not a gauge - it has to stop the bit with all of the force behind it.

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