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The lift is brand new and already sagging slightly in the rear due to the weight of the rack, RTT, bumper and misc camping gear. I was assured the quad rate springs would support the load. They don’t. I would estimate the weight in the rear is 450-500 lbs. Any recommendations on HD springs that will work with RK Adventure lift are welcomed.
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I replied to your RK 4 link thread but to keep things consistent here, I will tell you that you're going to need High Capacity coils or a Standard Coil that is 1" taller in the rear than the front.

My recommendations below apply to running at least 400lb+ constant load.

Please check out my threads on constant weight here = https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...ith-600lb-constant-load-overland-build.55227/

In summary: if running 400lb+ constant load
1) Standard capacity coils = 1" taller rear spring needed AND/OR Daystar 3/4" spacers
a) the one exception to this rule is Synergy springs as they already incorporate a 1.5" rake in their
standard coils. they can handle weight really well and are still "soft" per se
2) High Capacity coils =
a) Clayton HD - never ran these but I did run the Clayton SC coils and they ride firmer than most
b) Dobinsons - they offer various HD versions up to 1200lb constant I believe
c) AEV HC - I have these sitting at the shop but not installed. i keep hearing great things and i
know they handle the weight in the rear. I will be reviewing them this winter 2023

Sorry that you were misinformed by the shop, but I've been using my JTR as an overloading, I mean overlanding rig since before aftermarket companies started offering HD coils. It's been trial and error for me.
 
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I replied to your RK 4 link thread but to keep things consistent here, I will tell you that you're going to need High Capacity coils or a Standard Coil that is 1" taller in the rear than the front.

My recommendations below apply to running at least 400lb+ constant load.

Please check out my threads on constant weight here = https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...ith-600lb-constant-load-overland-build.55227/

In summary: if running 400lb+ constant load
1) Standard capacity coils = 1" taller rear spring needed AND/OR Daystar 3/4" spacers
a) the one exception to this rule is Synergy springs as they already incorporate a 1.5" rake in their
standard coils. they can handle weight really well and are still "soft" per se
2) High Capacity coils =
a) Clayton HD - never ran these but I did run the Clayton SC coils and they ride firmer than most
b) Dobinsons - they offer various HD versions up to 1200lb constant I believe
c) AEV HC - I have these sitting at the shop but not installed. i keep hearing great things and i
know they handle the weight in the rear. I will be reviewing them this winter 2023

Sorry that you were misinformed by the shop, but I've been using my JTR as an overloading, I mean overlanding rig since before aftermarket companies started offering HD coils. It's been trial and error for me.
Yeah thanks for that info. I decided to go with the AEV. My rear bed weight is somewhere around 550-600 depending on load out but never less than 500 with the rack, tent and rear bumper
 

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My experience - I ran the AEV 3-inch coils with Clayton arms, Teraflex control arm brackets, and Fox 2.5's. The ride is good, soft-ish, so I needed to increase dampening on the shocks. For my application, I ran into a concern where the lift from the coils was closer to what I've seen for a 2-inch vs 3-inch and the rake was really pronounced. I put a one-inch Teraflex spacer up front and it was better, but still had a good rake to it. My application was not a constant load (towing). I've seen these hi-cap coils on a JT with a SmartCap installed and that did not even it out much. YMMV, but they can definitely hold weight.

In the end, I went to COR's 3.5-inch hi-cap coils in the rear with the 3.5's up front and that works for what we're trying to do. The ride is definitely firm with the Clayton coils, but I can account for ride with the shocks.

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My experience - I ran the AEV 3-inch coils with Clayton arms, Teraflex control arm brackets, and Fox 2.5's. The ride is good, soft-ish, so I needed to increase dampening on the shocks. For my application, I ran into a concern where the lift from the coils was closer to what I've seen for a 2-inch vs 3-inch and the rake was really pronounced. I put a one-inch Teraflex spacer up front and it was better, but still had a good rake to it. My application was not a constant load (towing). I've seen these hi-cap coils on a JT with a SmartCap installed and that did not even it out much. YMMV, but they can definitely hold weight.

In the end, I went to COR's 3.5-inch hi-cap coils in the rear with the 3.5's up front and that works for what we're trying to do. The ride is definitely firm with the Clayton coils, but I can account for ride with the shocks.

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Makes sense, AEV tries to keep close to factory rake, clayton takes about half the factory rake out.
 

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Makes sense, AEV tries to keep close to factory rake, clayton takes about half the factory rake out.
Roger that, After talking with AEV and Clayton, they were both looking at keeping the factory rake in the JT with their high-capacity springs, but that might be at two different points (loaded vs unloaded). That said, there was quite a bit of difference of height in the rear when unloaded between the two sets (F&R). The coil designs are different and the free length between the two are a lot greater than a half-inch. The AEVs are what I'd consider dual rate vs triple on the Claytons, as disclosed.

Hoping this might be of use at some point for someone who tows and doesn't want to rely on airbags, which I used for some time, but decided they weren't getting the job done for me when towing.
 
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I replied to your RK 4 link thread but to keep things consistent here, I will tell you that you're going to need High Capacity coils or a Standard Coil that is 1" taller in the rear than the front.

My recommendations below apply to running at least 400lb+ constant load.

Please check out my threads on constant weight here = https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...ith-600lb-constant-load-overland-build.55227/

In summary: if running 400lb+ constant load
1) Standard capacity coils = 1" taller rear spring needed AND/OR Daystar 3/4" spacers
a) the one exception to this rule is Synergy springs as they already incorporate a 1.5" rake in their
standard coils. they can handle weight really well and are still "soft" per se
2) High Capacity coils =
a) Clayton HD - never ran these but I did run the Clayton SC coils and they ride firmer than most
b) Dobinsons - they offer various HD versions up to 1200lb constant I believe
c) AEV HC - I have these sitting at the shop but not installed. i keep hearing great things and i
know they handle the weight in the rear. I will be reviewing them this winter 2023

Sorry that you were misinformed by the shop, but I've been using my JTR as an overloading, I mean overlanding rig since before aftermarket companies started offering HD coils. It's been trial and error for me.
I switched the rear AEV coils with Dobinson extreme duty (800-1200lbs) and now my rig is level still running the Rock Krawler front coils. Interested the Gladiator handles much better on the road now too.
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