Baxter Performance oil filter adapter

[Steel24]

Anyone have one of these “Baxter performance oil filter adapter” on their Gladiator?
If you do, how do you like it?
The concept seems interesting.
thanks for the info.

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[Spur]

No need for it. Gladiator is the easiest oil change I have ever done. I don’t get any oil on me or the engine. So, big waste of money imho.

 

[XraytecH]

No need for it. Gladiator is the easiest oil change I have ever done. I don’t get any oil on me or the engine. So, big waste of money imho.

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU

So easy that I'm doing more frequent oil changes. 3K miles and I've already done 2 oil changes.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU

So easy that I'm doing more frequent oil changes. 3K miles and I've already done 2 oil changes.

And that little 3.6 may just last you 300,000 miles.

 

[kevman65]

I love the concept, but don' think it's an item most need.

The only downside to the cartridge style filter is no check valve, no oil saved in filter for start up.

But 99.99% of us don't do extreme driving and don't really need the function.

Now if you want the cool factor, go for it. It's only money.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I love the concept, but don' think it's an item most need.

The only downside to the cartridge style filter is no check valve, no oil saved in filter for start up.

But 99.99% of us don't do extreme driving and don't really need the function.

Now if you want the cool factor, go for it. It's only money.

I posted in another thread just like this on some oil filter adapter thing about how the design on the current 3.6 negates any issues of "anti-drainback valve" not being there.
Basically, it's not an issue with these. Now I need to find what I posted in the other thread almost exactly like this - one of the posts was "a solution looking for a problem"
Ah, here it is............... oil stays in the filter area until you remove the cap - no need for ADV -
Note the parts in bold below -

Appears to me that no "ADV" is even needed. They say in that link that there isn't one, but the way this describes the system, it's not needed.

"A chain-driven (single chain), vane-type variable displacement oil pump adjusts the flow rate and pressure as commanded by the engine management system, which uses a solenoid to drive the pump into low or high pressure mode. For example, below 3,500 rpm, the pump conserves energy by using low pressure; at speeds over 3,500 rpm, the pump switches to high pressure.

A force balance mechanism inside the oil pump adjusts the size of the pumping chambers to alter oil flow. If the oil is cold, the pump reduces the size of the internal chambers. When the oil is hot and thinner, more oil is needed, and a spring increases the size of the pump chambers. This also saves energy.

The pump is driven at a 1:1 drive ratio; its location under the block is more efficient than an on-crankshaft location. An internal, mechanical ball-and-spring relief valve dumps oil into the sump when needed, for conditions such as a cold start with high engine speed. Both pump and pressure regulation solenoid are non-serviceable. Removing the oil filter cap from the housing allows oil to drain from the oil filter cavity into to the crankcase".

So - oil doesn't drain out of the filter normally. And IMO, if there was a problem with oil not being there or where and when needed, there are parts that would sure know about it.

 

[cb4017]

I posted in another thread just like this on some oil filter adapter thing about how the design on the current 3.6 negates any issues of "anti-drainback valve" not being there.
Basically, it's not an issue with these. Now I need to find what I posted in the other thread almost exactly like this - one of the posts was "a solution looking for a problem"
Ah, here it is............... oil stays in the filter area until you remove the cap - no need for ADV -
Note the parts in bold below -

Appears to me that no "ADV" is even needed. They say in that link that there isn't one, but the way this describes the system, it's not needed.

"A chain-driven (single chain), vane-type variable displacement oil pump adjusts the flow rate and pressure as commanded by the engine management system, which uses a solenoid to drive the pump into low or high pressure mode. For example, below 3,500 rpm, the pump conserves energy by using low pressure; at speeds over 3,500 rpm, the pump switches to high pressure.

A force balance mechanism inside the oil pump adjusts the size of the pumping chambers to alter oil flow. If the oil is cold, the pump reduces the size of the internal chambers. When the oil is hot and thinner, more oil is needed, and a spring increases the size of the pump chambers. This also saves energy.

The pump is driven at a 1:1 drive ratio; its location under the block is more efficient than an on-crankshaft location. An internal, mechanical ball-and-spring relief valve dumps oil into the sump when needed, for conditions such as a cold start with high engine speed. Both pump and pressure regulation solenoid are non-serviceable. Removing the oil filter cap from the housing allows oil to drain from the oil filter cavity into to the crankcase".

So - oil doesn't drain out of the filter normally. And IMO, if there was a problem with oil not being there or where and when needed, there are parts that would sure know about it.

Interesting. I assumed the oil drained out of the filter whenever the engine was shut down.

 

[DAVECS1]

I would love to have the remote adapter. I would add a nice big oil cooler to my jeep. Perfect add on fro my supercharger. Could also use some higher end canister filters instead of the cartridges

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I would love to have the remote adapter. I would add a nice big oil cooler to my jeep. Perfect add on fro my supercharger. Could also use some higher end canister filters instead of the cartridges

I wonder if BULLTEAR in MN is making those for the 3.6 He's an old-school Jeep nut and AMC person who has made all sorts of remote filter and other accessories for earlier Jeep engines, racing parts, serpentine belt systems for the old 360 and so on.......... who knows, Matt of Bulltear may do something custom.

 

[DAVECS1]

Jeep cheaped out on cooling plain and simple. Power steering, engine oil, transmisson, all could be better and there is plenty of room for it. To add insult to injury they made it almost impossible to hook into any of the fluid circuits

 

[dcmdon]

I don't own a Gladiator (yet) so I don't know how the drain plug is located. But I've found the Fumoto Valve to be a great help for doing oil changes. Just make sure you don't get a Chinese knock off. Buy from Fumoto Valve directly.

If it would hang down in a way that risked it getting hit, then its a deal breaker. But if not, its a wonderful product.

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