Borne(Mishimoto) 12k Winch

[Rossi D]

Does anyone have experience with the Born-Offroad winches? I get the feeling that it's a new branding- but I'm optimistic that they are hand checked before shipping to make sure that they meet the QA standards. The price point seems too good to be true but has a pretty stout warranty.

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[Maximus Gladius]

https://www.borne.com/borne-off-road-12k-winch-kit.html

So others can see what your post is about. First off, great price but, I think you get what you pay for and this is some cheap knock-off. I wouldn’t hang my life on the end of it, but this is first reaction without researching the tests or digging into who Borne is

 

[Rossi D]

https://www.borne.com/borne-off-road-12k-winch-kit.html

So others can see what your post is about. First off, great price but, I think you get what you pay for and this is some cheap knock-off. I wouldn’t hang my life on the end of it, but this is first reaction without researching the tests or digging into who Borne is

For sure- The price point is stupid low. When I saw them during the black-friday sales they weren't selling them this low. They were at $599, which was somewhat competitive to the badlands and others. There isn't a lot about them other than a few unboxing reviews, nothing that's really going to show capability or quality.

 

[Bennett]

The website actually seems more legit than I expected. The company is apparently based in the US (PA), of course I’m sure the winch is Chinese made, but for support/warranty issues having a US based company is nice. The biggest red flag I see is that there is zero technical information about the winch (duty cycle, etc). I would love to find out more, so please share if you see it.

 

[Mr Miami]

If you can get the Badlands Apex 12000 as I did for around $500 when on sale or with coupons, I wouldn't see any purpose in experimenting with stuff in the same general price range when there is the tried and proven Apex 12000 out there. I don't know what you would gain (similar or at least close pricing) but if it fails you will have made a costly mistake. But to each his own.

 

[Sweetums]

Honestly, I'd rather get the Badlands from Harbor Freight. At least those have pulled miles and miles of cable and are a known quantity. Trailmater Off Road Recovery uses Badlands almost exclusively and those winches get worked way more and much harder than average - and they just keep going.

For the $500-$600 price point Badlands would be my choice. I sure wouldn't trust a $300 12,000# winch from an unknown brand with my life or my truck. This absolutely falls into Sam Vimes's Boots Theory of Economic Unfairness - saving money isn't always saving money.

 

[Maximus Gladius]

Maybe Project Farm tested it?! There may be other tests he’s done with other similar winches.

 

[Rossi D]

The website actually seems more legit than I expected. The company is apparently based in the US (PA), of course I’m sure the winch is Chinese made, but for support/warranty issues having a US based company is nice. The biggest red flag I see is that there is zero technical information about the winch (duty cycle, etc). I would love to find out more, so please share if you see it.

I found this from their website. it just says stop when hot or 1 minute of continued use. Not in the same sentence. That sounds like common sense, but not sure what the standard duty cycle is for one of these. The rest of the data I was curious about is that it only spools at 8' per minute at 50% capacity. I need to watch the project farm video to see if that's normal or mediocre (expectation)

https://www.borne.com/media/wysiwyg/borne_cms/pdp-winch/borne_winch_manual.pdf

 

[Sweetums]

Stop for how long? That's only half the duty cycle equation. Badlands says to cool for 14 minutes after a 45 second pull, giving it a 5% duty cycle.

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