Dealership sucks. TPMS questions

[GEETCH]

I'd be totally shocked if any sensors had dead batteries after only 3 years. I've seen them last easily double that and my neighbor says his went something like 7 years on their Ford Escape.
We've never lost a sensor, never lost a sensor battery.

And in his case - more than one? Not going to happen like that unless they were cheap non-MOPAR replacement junkers.
Sounds like the sensors may be a year old (to him, anyway) and I doubt they are old enough to see batteries going bad.

very true, as I said something to consider, it is possible they are older than what they may seem, could have been a bad batch of batteries, etc. could have been damaged while swapping cracking the housing allowing moisture to corrode the battery etc. many many variables for sure. they crazy thing is the $500 price tag he was quoted. you can get aftermarket ones or oem compliant ones for much cheaper. mine are aftermarket and have had them in my wheels for 8 months now with zero issues.

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[MBJeep]

Media/beads are worthless, crap, in tires this small. I'd never let anyone use such means for balancing on my tires.

Oh, I 100% agree. I just read anecdotally that some individuals were having tpms failures as the media sometime damaged sensors. I was curious how he balanced them.

 

[Gatorized]

For what it's worth I had an identical problem with my 2020. I took it to two different dealers who would "relearn" the sensors and they would be working when I left but at least one would be out by the time I got home. Then they would start coming and going. Dealers both claimed it was because I had non-OEM wheels and wouldn't diagnose further.

My solution was to go rogue (and cheap) and invest a few dollars on a BeadBuster, TPMS programmer, and some programmable Autel MAXItpms sensors from Amazon. I figured 'What could go wrong?' and changed the TPMS sensors myself. It's going on eight months with no issues; even the tire fill alert works.

Do you have a write up with links on what you used and process you went through to change over to new TPMS sensors?

 

[King Nothing]

Did you use traditional weight tire balancing, or bead media?

they are balanced with weights

Something to consider, you MAY need to replace your sensors:

Direct TPMS sensors commonly use radio frequency technology to transmit measured tire pressure readings to a vehicle’s on-board electronic control unit and warn drivers of a 25% or more under-inflation level.

Mounted inside a tire assembly on valve stems or wheel rims, the sensors are usually powered by 3-volt lithium ion batteries, but some use 1.25-volt nickel metal hydride batteries. There are developments underway that promise battery-less sensors in the future, having the potential to dramatically change TPMS markets.

For now, though, the batteries – generally round and encased in a sensor’s molded plastic housing – have finite lives. Since the batteries are entombed, a dead or dying one requires the replacement of its entire sensor assembly.

just some info for you to consider.

I had aftermarket sensors installed on my aftermarket wheels, it reads fine in the truck and it was only about 30 bucks a wheel. the batteries do die though as stated above. just my .02 good luck.

these were new OEM sensors and the TPMS system failed within 6 months of installation. I’m extremely doubtful that any of the batteries failed within 6 months, much less all 4

I'd be totally shocked if any sensors had dead batteries after only 3 years. I've seen them last easily double that and my neighbor says his went something like 7 years on their Ford Escape.
We've never lost a sensor, never lost a sensor battery.

And in his case - more than one? Not going to happen like that unless they were cheap non-MOPAR replacement junkers.
Sounds like the sensors may be a year old (to him, anyway) and I doubt they are old enough to see batteries going bad.



Media/beads are worthless, crap, in tires this small. I'd never let anyone use such means for balancing on my tires.




I'd ask them - what the heck is there to handle? They measure pressure, not diameter of the tire or the weight of the tire. And bigger tires take lower pressures - so as long as they can go down to your tire pressure, where's the problem?
Maybe if you ordered kryptonite wheels that magically block signals or act as some sort of Faraday cage........... but you only need to point out all of the Jeep owners running 35s in the country who have stock MOPAR sensors in their wheels. Even at that, 25 bucks a pop to install sensors times 4 is 100 bucks, and a set of sensors will be under 150 for 4, so we're at only 250 for a set installed unless they use some aircraft sensors or something.

I’m going to swap my wheels on to my wife’s JLU for a few days and see where we are. I’m expecting/hoping that her Jeep reads my sensors and mine doesn’t read hers. That will prove the problem is with the truck and not the sensors and I can go back to the dealer and have them fix it and refund the $85 they charged me to “diagnose” the problem. The other possibility is that I was sold a bad set of sensors by a forum member (not here) which I find improbable but not impossible

 

[King Nothing]

Well, just an update for anyone who helped. Looks like I was wrong. Switched wheels with my wife and my truck reads her sensors and her Jeep does not read mine. Looks like I bought a bad set of sensors. A couple things that make matters worse. My wife loves my wheels on her Jeep so I’m going to have to fight her to get them back. If it was in the budget I’d let her keep them and go to 37s. I’ve been having some bumpsteer issues but it graduated to full on death wobble when I swapped the wheels out

 

[Discount Tire]

About a year ago I put 35s and Rocktrix wheels on my JT. I bought a new set of OEM TPMS sensors and had them installed. After a few months the TPMS failed and now doesn’t read anything. First one wheel dropped, then another, then the other 2 at once, all within a month. The dealer is telling me that the OEM sensors “can’t handle” 35s and they need to put aftermarket sensors in for $575. I told her there are 10s of thousands of people running 35s on OEM sensors both on stock wheels and aftermarket but they refuse to go any farther with it. I guess my next step will be to swap the wheels and tires with my wife’s JLU and see if my JT reads her sensors or if her Jeep reads mine.

TPMS issues can be tricky and frustrating at times.

I might recommend a second opinion on what's really going on with the sensors. You can take your vehicle to one of our local Discount Tire locations and they will diagnose the TPMS issue at no charge.

 

[King Nothing]

TPMS issues can be tricky and frustrating at times.

I might recommend a second opinion on what's really going on with the sensors. You can take your vehicle to one of our local Discount Tire locations and they will diagnose the TPMS issue at no charge.

thanks. We have a Discount Tire in town so I will try that

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