Delete push button start, go back to keyed ignition? The rfid brick has to go...

[seven30]

Man, you want to get rid of the push start, some other guy wants to get rid of ABS brakes, another doesn't like electronic assists like hill descent....it's like all you guys should just save your money and buy something from 1985.

If you have a manual tranny the button start is deadly dangerous if you stall. It can take a compete cycle through off/acc/run to get it started again. Occasionally Ive had to do this twice!
What Id like an option to have a key like switch but key does not have to come out. The key position determines function. It just a bad idea to be interacting with software for such a critical function.
Just ask Boeing! So at least for MT a switch instead of button would be a great option.

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[SwampNut]

Another great reason to eliminate the very outdated MT option.

 

[NachoRuby]

If you have a manual tranny the button start is deadly dangerous if you stall. It can take a compete cycle through off/acc/run to get it started again. Occasionally Ive had to do this twice!
What Id like an option to have a key like switch but key does not have to come out. The key position determines function. It just a bad idea to be interacting with software for such a critical function.
Just ask Boeing! So at least for MT a switch instead of button would be a great option.

No you don't. You just have to HOLD the start button, with the clutch in, same process as when you first start the truck. No need to cycle through. Just don't forget to press the clutch in, or it will cycle through, same as a keyed car and taking the key out. Last three manual vehicles have all had push to start. You don't have to cycle through on any of them. Just press the clutch in and HOLD start. When you stall, it goes to back to run mode. Press the clutch in, HOLD start, and it starts, same as if it never stalled in the first place. You can still even roll start it from run mode, like if it had a real key. If you were in 4Lo, a neat trick is that you don't even have to press the clutch in, just HOLD start.

 

[seven30]

No you don't. You just have to HOLD the start button, with the clutch in, same process as when you first start the truck. No need to cycle through. Just don't forget to press the clutch in, or it will cycle through, same as a keyed car and taking the key out. Last three manual vehicles have all had push to start. You don't have to cycle through on any of them. Just press the clutch in and HOLD start. When you stall, it goes to back to run mode. Press the clutch in, HOLD start, and it starts, same as if it never stalled in the first place. You can still even roll start it from run mode, like if it had a real key. If you were in 4Lo, a neat trick is that you don't even have to press the clutch in, just HOLD start.

That's what I usually do. However sometimes after a stall it does not respond and I have to cycle it through back to run. A few times I had to repeat that process twice! Even when that works there seems to be a slight delay while software does some thinking. Id prefer a rotary switch like the old key switch that I just turn: off:acc:run:start
Besides, a rotary switch fits the Gladiator character far better than a foo-foo push putton

 

[WILDHOBO]

My question is this, as you are a baby boomer. Pants pockets that were in style then had a decent amount of real estate. As the fob seems to be too big, have you shunned technology, but really embraced skinny jeans?

 

[seven30]

My question is this, as you are a baby boomer. Pants pockets that were in style then had a decent amount of real estate. As the fob seems to be too big, have you shunned technology, but really embraced skinny jeans?

The fob is not my issue although they key does pop out and create... issues. With a MT if it stalls, which this light flywheel exacerbates, I want to reach and crank RIGHT NOW! No push and pray nonsense. Having to ASK HAL to pretty please crank my engine goes against the entire Jeep thing for me.

 

[WILDHOBO]

The fob is not my issue although they key does pop out and create... issues. With a MT if it stalls, which this light flywheel exacerbates, I want to reach and crank RIGHT NOW! No push and pray nonsense. Having to ASK HAL to pretty please crank my engine goes against the entire Jeep thing for me.

There are really good deals on project CJ7’s with 4 speed manuals and keyed ignitions. Clutch travel as long as your leg.

 

[seven30]

The fob is not my issue although they key does pop out and create... issues. With a MT if it stalls, which this light flywheel exacerbates, I want to reach and crank RIGHT NOW! No push and pray nonsense. Having to ASK HAL to pretty please crank my engine goes against the entire Jeep thing for me.

Oh I forgot to mention this button system is so deeply integrated that they would have to EMULATE a key switch!!!

 

[NachoRuby]

The fob is not my issue although they key does pop out and create... issues. With a MT if it stalls, which this light flywheel exacerbates, I want to reach and crank RIGHT NOW! No push and pray nonsense. Having to ASK HAL to pretty please crank my engine goes against the entire Jeep thing for me.

This might be just a getting used to it thing. First, you'll stall a whole lot less when you drive it more, to the point where it's an extremely rare occurrence. Second, the push button restarts faster than turning a key or pseudo-key ever would. I love my MT, but keyed ignitions aren't coming back. After 10 years of driving push button start vehicles, it's so annoying to use a real key in my wife's JKU. And then to have to find that real key in your pocket, or for my wife, in her purse. Proximity + push button is awesome.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

This might be just a getting used to it thing. First, you'll stall a whole lot less when you drive it more, to the point where it's an extremely rare occurrence. Second, the push button restarts faster than turning a key or pseudo-key ever would. I love my MT, but keyed ignitions aren't coming back. After 10 years of driving push button start vehicles, it's so annoying to use a real key in my wife's JKU. And then to have to find that real key in your pocket, or for my wife, in her purse. Proximity + push button is awesome.

My Chevy had a key while my wife's Jeeps have had the push buttons for YEARS. I was surprised that Chevy came with a KEY I had to insert. Of course with her handicap my wife hated using the Chevy key -they are always on the right side - her bad hand and arm. I love NO ley and the pushbutton.

 

[Jt-wrx]

lol, I have manual and my kid learning to drive on it, part of the reason I wanted a manual but I prefer driving them anyway, driving is fun for me, I like all the engagement, we don't have issues with quick restarts after stalling, clutch in, push and hold that button till it's going, it can be pretty quick

but yes, it would be nice to have some modes of transportation that weren't linked or connected to the hive, a little security goes a long ways, many here are programmed to the hive mind however and can't wait till their corporate government has chips in their bodies and full control over their ability to move around this world, including their cars, of course it's sold to us as 'convenience'...lots of you are seeing it now finally but it takes the absurd to help break this spell and engage people to wake, they wanna keep cheering on their own enslavement lol

and now it's time for the jokes from said slaves

 

[mazeppa]

 

[XraytecH]

I'm in the Pro-Button camp. When I first saw that the Honda s2000 had a Push Button Start, I thought it was the Coolest Thing Ever.

 

[XraytecH]

Off on a tangent here, I do appreciate that my Jeep has a mechanical brake lever. Every car manufacturer has opted for some sort of electronic switch to engage and disengage the parking brake.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Off on a tangent here, I do appreciate that my Jeep has a mechanical brake lever. Every car manufacturer has opted for some sort of electronic switch to engage and disengage the parking brake.

Cheers to that. I like my push button start, but hated the electric e brake on our Cherokee.

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